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Has LSU ever had the #1 class?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:00 pm
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:02 pm to Hiyoka
A couple of times I believe
Once under Saban
Once with Les...
Once under Saban
Once with Les...
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:03 pm to Hiyoka
Not that I can remember, I think we've had the #2 and #3 classes before though, I just don't remember what services.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:05 pm to Hiyoka
Nope
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:10 pm to Toadfrggy82
LSU had the #1 class in 09
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:11 pm to Hiyoka
No
2009 and 2014 were up to #2, depending where you shop
2009 and 2014 were up to #2, depending where you shop
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:12 pm to Hiyoka
yeah 2009
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:18 pm to Srobi14
No because of Shannon terry being a Bama Homer would adjust the rankings at the very end
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:48 pm to Hiyoka
Yes. 2003. I remember being a kid and using allowance money to buy the recruiting class DVD. I remember Shawn Jordan’s highlight video being unreal.
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2003/all-teams/football/recruiting
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2003/all-teams/football/recruiting
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:52 pm to BentonTiger7
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:53 pm to BentonTiger7
I hate to bring this up but looking back on some of those classes and LSU wouldn’t have been what they were without the 3* players we landed. We had quite a bit of misses on our 5* and 4* players. Especially on the DL.
We had a lot of misses period, but this has always been a part of recruiting and will always be. If you hit on about 60% of your guys then you’re doing pretty good over 4 years. That’s why I’m not sure why people get so caught up in this stuff. Some guys develop and some don’t. Doesn’t really matter what star they are. We’re still cherry picking our guys, no matter what star rating they are.
Thst’s always been my argument. We have always been able to recruit enough of all star caliber players to compete and as long as we have good leadership, LSU will always be able to compete. Just take a look at those classes, Its telling. While the recruiting sites have gotten better, I don’t think it’s much different than it was then. You still have misses/ surprises on all fronts. Good stuff!
We had a lot of misses period, but this has always been a part of recruiting and will always be. If you hit on about 60% of your guys then you’re doing pretty good over 4 years. That’s why I’m not sure why people get so caught up in this stuff. Some guys develop and some don’t. Doesn’t really matter what star they are. We’re still cherry picking our guys, no matter what star rating they are.
Thst’s always been my argument. We have always been able to recruit enough of all star caliber players to compete and as long as we have good leadership, LSU will always be able to compete. Just take a look at those classes, Its telling. While the recruiting sites have gotten better, I don’t think it’s much different than it was then. You still have misses/ surprises on all fronts. Good stuff!
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:00 am to Hiyoka
I seem to remember 2001 being the best in the country
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:01 am to Hiyoka
2003 and 2004 at least one of either scout, rivals or espn had LSU at #1 in recruiting class, in addition to the other years mentioned.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:42 pm to Hiyoka
2001, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2014
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:31 am to BayouBengal99
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Some guys develop and some don’t. Doesn’t really matter what star they are
I really wish we could retire this nonsense.
Is it true that a 3* can develop into a superstar? Yes, that’s very true.
Is it also true that 4* “hit” at a much higher rate than 3*, and 5* hit at a much higher rate than 4*? Yes, that’s also very true (demonstrably so).
The bottom line is that scouting and development of lower-ranked guys is a huge part of the equation, and always will be - but so is landing highly ranked guys. There’s a reason why no team in the modern recruiting-rankings era has ever won a championship without a roster comprising >50% 4 and 5* guys.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:23 am to BayouBengal99
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That’s why I’m not sure why people get so caught up in this stuff. Some guys develop and some don’t. Doesn’t really matter what star they are.
You're 100% wrong. 5 stars develop more often than 4 stars and 4 stars develop more often than 3 stars.
The disconnect occurs when people fail to understand how few 5 stars there and how many 3 stars there are.
There are literally thousands of 3 stars yearly vs only around 35 five stars. Which means even if only 10% of 3 stars pan out, that's still way more players than if 75% of 5 stars pan out. That's why the NFL is littered with 3 star guys. You can not have a league without tons of 3 star guys.
Also, people are more likely to notice when a 5 star doesn't pan out vs a 3 star, who in most, will not do a whole lot.
LSU's roster, as an example, has mostly 4 stars, with some 5 stars (usually under 10 guys) and the rest 3 stars.
The LSU roster composition guarantees you'll see more 4 stars progress AND fail than any other star rating. This is another reason LSU fans get hung up on the "stars don't matter" lie. You don't even notice the 3 star heavy teams LSU steamrolls annually. You only notice the handful of 3 stars that pop up at LSU.
People keep repeating the same wrong argument again and again on here trying to argue that stars are irrelevant. That's not remotely true.
We have plenty of data on this to know what happens.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:38 am to Hiyoka
They did in 1994
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:12 pm to Hiyoka
Pretty sure 2000 or 2001 we had our greatest class ever. Idk if we will ever hit that again with Michael Clayton, Ben Wilkerson, Andrew whitworth, marquis hill, Marcus spears to name the headliners.
That was the best class I have ever seen from any school I am biased obviously
That was the best class I have ever seen from any school I am biased obviously
Posted on 1/8/24 at 2:04 pm to lsutiger2
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No because of Shannon terry being a Bama Homer would adjust the rankings at the very end
Yep.
Reclassified an Alabama committed tackle prospect to center so he could be the #1 rated center in the country, thus bumping their overall rating up.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:24 pm to MarioBrothers
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They did in 1994
1992, Curley's class with Eddie Kennison and David LaFleur got the top ranking from Max Emfinger.
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