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Has anyone explained how Brennan won't fit a spread attack?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:14 am
i mean we're not going to go full on Auburn 2010 or anything
look at schools that use some designed QB runs and rely on mobile QBs out of the spread like OSU. Brennan fits that type of offense pretty well. i'd imagine that would be the most extreme version of "the spread" that we'd run
a true spread option is now more of a novelty instead of a full-on offense. WV 2007 ain't walking through that door. even Oregon with Mariota relied less and less on a pure read option offense as he progressed as a passer.
now as for a traditional spread, he looks on point as a prospect for that type of offense. he also looks like he'd fit in a true pro-style offense and a west coast-style offense that relies on QB mobility.
i just do not see this "square peg in a round hole" unless O wants our offense to go full bore spread option. if he does, that's a major worry regardless of who is our QB
look at schools that use some designed QB runs and rely on mobile QBs out of the spread like OSU. Brennan fits that type of offense pretty well. i'd imagine that would be the most extreme version of "the spread" that we'd run
a true spread option is now more of a novelty instead of a full-on offense. WV 2007 ain't walking through that door. even Oregon with Mariota relied less and less on a pure read option offense as he progressed as a passer.
now as for a traditional spread, he looks on point as a prospect for that type of offense. he also looks like he'd fit in a true pro-style offense and a west coast-style offense that relies on QB mobility.
i just do not see this "square peg in a round hole" unless O wants our offense to go full bore spread option. if he does, that's a major worry regardless of who is our QB
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
I believe the theory is in running a spread with a DT QB is the 'threat' that the QB can run and run effectively. Giving him 4-5 called runs in a game to put that little thought in the back of LB and DBs heads when there are 3-4 WR sets.
Now can Brennan do this? Maybe athletically he could suffice like a Andrew Luck however he is a bit slower than him at a recorded 4.99 40. But at 6'3 180 it would be a mistake to throw him out there with 4-5 called run plays a game. He would for sure take at least 1 big hit from those runs alone.
Now can Brennan do this? Maybe athletically he could suffice like a Andrew Luck however he is a bit slower than him at a recorded 4.99 40. But at 6'3 180 it would be a mistake to throw him out there with 4-5 called run plays a game. He would for sure take at least 1 big hit from those runs alone.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
only thing i can figure is kiffin told O that Brennan wasn't his guy. we are talking about the same coach that told tahj boyd to take a hike.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:21 am to tke857
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But at 6'3 180 it would be a mistake to throw him out there with 4-5 called run plays a game. He would for sure take at least 1 big hit from those runs alone.
If he's only 180 lbs at the time we would be calling those plays it means he's playing as a true frosh.
If that is the case, we've got way more to worry about than how he fits an as yet to be implemented system.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:22 am to 1999
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we are talking about the same coach that told tahj boyd to take a hike.
At the time he said that to Boyd, he was running a system that fit Brennan better. With the system he's running at Bama currently, he'd go down on a dude to have Boyd at QB.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:24 am to tke857
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Now can Brennan do this? Maybe athletically he could suffice like a Andrew Luck however he is a bit slower than him at a recorded 4.99 40. But at 6'3 180 it would be a mistake to throw him out there with 4-5 called run plays a game.
he's not going to be 180 lbs for long. he won't play for a year or 2 anyway which is plenty of time to put on 30 solid lbs
and even "dual threat" QBs like juice williams run in the 4.8s and 4.9s ( 4.91 at pro day)
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Maybe they just don't think he's that good? I don't agree, but you have to keep it in your list of possibilities.
There was actually a lot of grief on this board when he committed because he had not been offered by Ole Miss or State.
There was actually a lot of grief on this board when he committed because he had not been offered by Ole Miss or State.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:26 am to ProjectP2294
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At the time he said that to Boyd, he was running a system that fit Brennan better. With the system he's running at Bama currently, he'd go down on a dude to have Boyd at QB.
again, Brennan looks plenty mobile
Boyd ran a 4.84 at the combine. he's not a Vick or anything
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
They're just making excuses for what appears to be a poor move by O. If we land that Tua kid, I'll eat crow and worship the ground O walks on.
But Brennan can certainly run a spread offense.
But Brennan can certainly run a spread offense.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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and even "dual threat" QBs like juice williams run in the 4.8s and 4.9s ( 4.91 at pro day)
yeah you're right speed isnt the only thing. Agility and running vision play a major factor in a successful DT Spread QB. Could be the difference in a 5yd run or a break away TD. Does Brennan have this? Idk.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
It's because of durability
Tua is built like a running back and can take the punishment of 10+ designed runs per game in the sec. Brennan is mobile, but won't be utilized as much on designed runs because of his frame. You'd have to preserve him more. Qb need to be utilized on the running game a bit to make the defense key on him as a runner
Tua is built like a running back and can take the punishment of 10+ designed runs per game in the sec. Brennan is mobile, but won't be utilized as much on designed runs because of his frame. You'd have to preserve him more. Qb need to be utilized on the running game a bit to make the defense key on him as a runner
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am to Freshwater
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Tua is built like a running back and can take the punishment of 10+ designed runs per game in the sec. Brennan is mobile, but won't be utilized as much on designed runs because of his frame. You'd have to preserve him more. Qb need to be utilized on the running game a bit to make the defense key on him as a runner
and if we can't get Tua?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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There was actually a lot of grief on this board when he committed because he had not been offered by Ole Miss or State.
It's always possible for programs, and gasp...recruiting services to change their opinion on a recruit. We literally had a steal in this 2017 cycle that has turned out to be a legit prospect, and we're trying to piss that away.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
You'd maybe have a guy like narcisse. I think kiffin gca make it work with Brennan, but tua is ideally what he wants.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:30 am to c on z
a very legitimate secondary point is what happens when Kiffin leaves in a year or 2? even the biggest Cheri-Os believe this will happen
Brennan is a guy who can play in multiple systems and could be legit in the next OC's offense
Narcisse seems much more limited and less likely to have system variability
Brennan is a guy who can play in multiple systems and could be legit in the next OC's offense
Narcisse seems much more limited and less likely to have system variability
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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again, Brennan looks plenty mobile
I agree. He's not a statue back there.
He can probably run any system we'd put him in. But he's more suited to a pro-style or spread-pass vs spread-power run.
Although, I may be saying he's not suited for spread-power run because I want Brennan at LSU and I don't want to run the shite out of the QB, by design. This is me admitting my bias.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:33 am to SlowFlowPro
He would have fit great in a fun 'n gun style offense that Spurrier ran at Florida.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
You really don't want Brennan running zone reads and power reads. He's not that type of QB.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Kiffin could very well get a head coaching job this year, but it would shock me.
I don't know why people are convinced he is destined to get future head coaching opportunities. I think his schtick doesn't work as a head coach. He may not get any opportunities, at least at the level he wants.
Making a couple of million a year to be an OC may be his pinnacle.
I don't know why people are convinced he is destined to get future head coaching opportunities. I think his schtick doesn't work as a head coach. He may not get any opportunities, at least at the level he wants.
Making a couple of million a year to be an OC may be his pinnacle.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:43 am to smash williams
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You really don't want Brennan running zone reads and power reads. He's not that type of QB.
I really don't want any LSU QB running those.
ETA: At least not regularly.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:44 am
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