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Cool/interesting chart: How each Super Bowl starter was ranked in HS

Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:37 am
Posted by LSU Red24
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:37 am
LINK

Not a single 5-star to be found. Pretty interesting stuff
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:41 am to
:notthisshitagain:
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:42 am to
OK, I know you didn't say this, but before the 'stars don't matter' guys come in...

They do matter.
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:42 am to
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:46 am to
So quick to bash.

Not trying to make any statement on stars or rankings or what does and doesn't matter. I just think its cool to see who pans out. Thought the recruiting board of all places would enjoy
Posted by Duckie
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:52 am to
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So quick to bash.


I wasn't bashing. In fact I stated this

quote:

OK, I know you didn't say this, but
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 9:53 am
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:52 am to
Believe it or not the goal of recruiting is to win games in college. Everything gets shuffled again in college. I think I would be perfectly happy if LSU won the NC every year, but never sent one single player to the NFL.
Posted by 337Tigah
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:58 am to
Well these stars are based on how they think these players are ranked headed into COLLEGE. Alot changes between then and the NFL.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by Beaux
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:02 am to
this is so stupid the sheer numbers of 3 stars compared to 4 stars compared ultimately to 5 stars. There is only a select sample of 5 stars that make it so just by numbers alone this makes perfect sense
Posted by 337Tigah
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:14 am to
That's why more 3 and 4 starts make it in the NFL. There's a much bigger pool of player to potentially become super stars.
Posted by Bige11
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:17 am to
The dead horse beaten again......
1) more 5 stars (by percentage) are in league than 4 stars, more 4 than 3, and so on..... (By percentage). However there are a lot of 3 stars in league because out of the hundreds or so of 3 stars if only 5% make it that is more than all of the 5 stars.
2) 5 stars have more raw ability, so you have a better chance of making a great player. The old can't make chicken salad out of chicken s-"* adage.... But even if you start with chicken it still takes effort to make the salad in that analogy
3) there are always exceptions where kids are underrated

All this to say the obvious. Given a choice between a 5 star or a 4 star you always want the 5, unless there is a huge compelling reason to take 4 over 5 (like 5 star just got arrested for a string of felonies)
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:19 am
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:25 am to
To properly address the question "do stars matter?" you would need to do something like--what % of 5 stars are NFL starters vs 4 stars vs 3 stars etc?

I have never put much credence in 5 star vs 4 star. LSU history has lots of empirical reasons not to. But if you wanna challenge for the championship, it seems your average ranking needs to be pretty high.
Posted by Duckie
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:27 am to
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To properly address the question "do stars matter?" you would need to do something like--what % of 5 stars are NFL starters vs 4 stars vs 3 stars etc?

it has been done and, by percentage, there are more 5 stars that make it than others. More 4s than 3s and so on.
Posted by LSUcajun77
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:34 am to
Posted by arcalades
USA
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:36 am to
1 principle or dynamic that gets lost in this discussion is that the ideal college player isn't the ideal NFL player. Charlie Ward, Tebow, Couch, Crouch, etc. If you could have college Peyton Manning or college Tebow, who would you pick? The NFL versions are easy but not the college versions.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:02 am to
I don't know if the OP was trying to make a point but I thought it was interesting.

If the question is do *s matter it would be yes, but raw talent still must be developed through good coaching and the desire of the individual.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:07 am to
"herp a derp 5 stars are divas that don't work hard, always busts. 3 stars work harder herp a derp HESTER!!!!!"
Posted by Mrs. Amaro
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:36 am to
Its mildly comfurting that the Tackles arent any better than a 3 Star.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Well these stars are based on how they think these players are ranked headed into COLLEGE. Alot changes between then and the NFL.



True, and I think a lot of 4 & 5 star players can be very good, or say, All-Conference, maybe even All-American in college, but their game just doesn't translate to the pros.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9141 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:06 pm to
Oh good, we get to talk about this again.
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