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A new trend? Roquan Smith won't sign LOI...only financial aid paperwork
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:53 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:53 am
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Will football recruiting start to resemble basketball recruiting?
I am willing to bet more kids will start to take this approach each year and financial aid agreement forms will be the only thing sent into universities on NSD.
Obviously there will be some backlash here, but I think some things will start to change and shift towards a more player's rights type of environment.
Thoughts?
Will football recruiting start to resemble basketball recruiting?
I am willing to bet more kids will start to take this approach each year and financial aid agreement forms will be the only thing sent into universities on NSD.
Obviously there will be some backlash here, but I think some things will start to change and shift towards a more player's rights type of environment.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 7:55 am
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:57 am to Duckie
Need an early signing period for football to counter all of this crap
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:57 am to Duckie
interesting. what are the pros and cons of a player doing this? does he stand to loose his spot or does the financial aid agreement papers secure him a spot w/o signing the NLI?
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:58 am to redfieldk717
you will probably get one. The problem is that even with an early signing, they could still just sign financial aid paperwork and flirt with other schools.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:58 am to tke857
He can't lose his spot bUT he can go elsewhere
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:59 am to Duckie
It needs to be binding with a coaching change clause of sone sort
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 8:00 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 7:59 am to tke857
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interesting. what are the pros and cons of a player doing this? does he stand to loose his spot or does the financial aid agreement papers secure him a spot w/o signing the NLI?
PROS:
1. He can flirt with other schools until enrollment. He is not committed.
2. It binds the school, not the recruit.
CONS:
1. If you're not a star, the school may tell you they are not interested in financial aid paperwork. Could end up being a strategy that hurts kids.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 8:00 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:01 am to redfieldk717
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It needs to be binding with a coaching change clause of sone sort
Here's the problem. Some of these kids/parents cannot consult an attorney during this process. Are we going to get into a situation where each kid needs an attorney to represent themselves when signing an LOI? What coaches count towards this stipulation? The head coach, the position coach, any coach?
It could become a major cluster if you start putting more and more stipulations on these LOIs.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 8:03 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:07 am to redfieldk717
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Need an early signing period for football to counter all of this crap
I really do not see the point in this.
The big names can still wait. AND, this would hurt as much as help. Hell, Arden Key would likely be a SC Gamecock were there an early signing period.
These are still very young, impressionable kids. I am not in favor of an early signing period. I don't have any sympathy for multimillion dollar coaches having to sweat out some kids for a while.
And, to "relieve the stress" on us few that actually even know or care about 'recruiting' seems silly.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:11 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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These are still very young, impressionable kids. I am not in favor of an early signing period. I don't have any sympathy for multimillion dollar coaches having to sweat out some kids for a while.
And, to "relieve the stress" on us few that actually even know or care about 'recruiting' seems silly.
very good point honestly. I've always wondered why early signing periods are being pushed by so many. It does nothing good for the kids (which is who the NCAA should be protecting). If anything, sign the financial aid paperwork and enroll early.
Miles, Saban and others get paid enough money to sweat it out a few months.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:12 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Hell, Arden Key would likely be a SC Gamecock were there an early signing period.
And since he only signed financial paperwork, can flip to LSU anytime he wants, up to the day before fall practice, and enroll.
Then next year enroll at Bama.
What a clusterfrick it would be.
Extends recruiting to the full 3-4 years a kid stays in school.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:13 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
Early signing protects (would protect) kids from getting their offer dropped the day before nsd.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:14 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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I really do not see the point in this.
That's how I see it. Nothing is going to change if they do that. Those who sign in the early signing period are going to be the kids we never had to worry about, Jazz Ferguson, Toliver, etc. You're still going to have the same issues
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:29 am to BigEdLSU
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Early signing protects (would protect) kids from getting their offer dropped the day before nsd.
financial aid paperwork does the same thing.
Why not sign that and enroll whenever you want?
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:29 am to redfieldk717
quote:
Need an early signing period for football to counter all of this crap
I still won't trust an 17/18 year old to stick with an early signing period decision.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:07 am to Duckie
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Early signing protects (would protect) kids from getting their offer dropped the day before nsd
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financial aid paperwork does the same thing.
It should n't. Not without a signed LOI. This should cut both ways. Don't sign the LOI, risk having your spot filled by someone else. It's time to act like a man. Yes, these are 18 year olds......... 18 year old men Who should be leaning on the experience of their guardians.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:13 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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And, to "relieve the stress" on us few that actually even know or care about 'recruiting' seems silly.
I don't agree, considering we had 14-15 guys months before signing day and they all ended up signing. I find it silly they have to wait til some random day in February to do so.
Also the idea would be that you know where the coaches and players stand. If the school doesn't offer you to sign early, you may be a risk to be asked to gray shirt. Or have your offer pulled at the last minute. If the kid chooses not to sign, the schools know they have work to do and that the kid could end up elsewhere on nsd.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 9:16 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:19 am to GeauxAggie972
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Nothing is going to change if they do that. Those who sign in the early signing period are going to be the kids we never had to worry about, Jazz Ferguson, Toliver, etc. You're still going to have the same issues
Nah I think it will be less drama. You will know early the ones that are looking around.
Like for LSU, wouldn't it have been nice to know toshiro Davis and janzen Jackson were waivering months in advance and not on signing day?
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 9:20 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:36 am to Duckie
I only see this as good..players should have more rights..schools gain a ton off these kids.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 9:41 am to dreaux
I don't think that a school could let a kid enroll and participate in spring practice without a LOI
Could see a situation, as I just described, becoming a big mess for a school.
Could see a situation, as I just described, becoming a big mess for a school.
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