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Hard to believe that this is Laplace's first time to flood.

Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:02 pm
Posted by BasClas
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:02 pm
This is not intended as a flame in anyway. But when I looked up the location of Laplace on Google Maps earlier today, I noticed how close it is to Lakes Pontchartrain & Maurepas. With most of the hurricanes coming in from the east of Laplace, how is it that this is the first to push the lakes into Laplace? What am I missing here?
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:10 pm to
I am pretty sure it's not the first time for that area to flood.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:13 pm to
yea its not it was either ike or gustav but they got a huge storm surge. did a fema high water assessment and was amazed at some of the neighborhoods that got water.
Posted by BasClas
Member since Feb 2007
7881 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:18 pm to
I'm sorry, I could swear that the people from Laplace were on here yesterday saying that they never flood. I guess that I misunderstood them.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:21 pm to
THEY may have never flooded but I am pretty sure that area has flooded before in the history of the world
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:22 pm to
do they not have levees?
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:22 pm to
LaPlace has flooded before. Their Neighborhood may NOT have flooded before
Posted by BasClas
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

LaPlace has flooded before. Their Neighborhood may NOT have flooded before





Ok thanks for clearing that up.


Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6260 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 6:26 pm to
I have several relatives on old 51. During Andrew and oyher times there was some water on the property. The area by the interstate exit has flooded before. Never has water entered the houses, and they have been there at a minimum of 50-60 years.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21663 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:14 pm to
I grew up in LaPlace, and a lot of people I know have spent 60 years in that community. This is definitely unprecedented. There are areas near the lake that have had high water before, and there has been minor flooding in homes, but nothing like this before. I can't help but believe that the flood protection improvements in every other surrounding parish contributed to this. Not that I blame the other places for protecting themselves, but all that water has to go somewhere.
Posted by parrotdr
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Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

I can't help but believe that the flood protection improvements in every other surrounding parish contributed to this. Not that I blame the other places for protecting themselves, but all that water has to go somewhere.


I also have relatives off Old 51...we're going tomorrow to start gutting houses. You're right if you look at the flood protection maps. Laplace is last in line going east to west and everyone else has flood protection. NO LEVEE at the lake for St. John Parish. I have a feeling that will change in the next few years.

Some of my relatives try to blame the flood gate at the outfall canals for this. I tell them that while those protect New Orleans better, it wasnt' the difference here. Barring levees abreaking in N.O. and allowing all the surge to go to the city, this storm and its 36 hours of sitting and pushing water are the reason it happened. The small amount of water that WOULD have gone into the outfall canals previously would not have made a difference here.

Bottom line? Levee at St. John and the lake.
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6586 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:35 pm to
Looking at the flooding on the TV today in Laplace, madisonville, mandeville, and Slidell, I came to the conclusion that there might now be a push to install flood gates at the Chef and Rigolets and seal off the lake from storm surge. But, if you do that, that storm surge that is sealed off from entering the lake would have to go somewhere, maybe the MS gulf coast. I guess there are no easy solutions.
Posted by jguidroz
South Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1650 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:43 pm to
My neighbor in Laplace has lived there for 30 years and never seen water this high, much less actually in his house. Water never got anywhere close to this in our neighborhood for Katrina or Gustav.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:48 pm to
Most of the stuff in Mandeville and Madisonville floods once every year or two. From what I am hearing and seeing, it has been worse in Mandeville, and just as bad in Madisonville. Only thing people can do is jack up their houses, and with 100-200yr old houses, it isn't that easy. Bedico creek and Tangi river normally flood some areas, it was just worse this time because there was nowhere for the draining water to go. You can't really do anything cheap about that
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 7:56 pm to
Hurricane Ike showed what a storm surge could do to laplace. Storm hit Galveston but still pushed enough water that covered US 51 and caused flooding in several subdivisions.

this was middendorfs after Ike as well

Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48359 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Only thing people can do is jack up their houses,


I have heard on WWL radio some speculation that the increased flood protection in some areas will cause other unprotected areas to have worse flooding. It saddens me greatly to learn that this is true.

If you have to rebuild, put your new home on pylons/stilts. Put your new home 15 feet off of the ground, and use the space underneath your house for a carport, storage or recreation. That way, when your neighborhood floods, you don't lose everything from flooding.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:11 pm to
I know a few people on the lakefront in Mandeville that have their walls downstairs built to break away like at condos on the beach. They just move all of the stuff upstairs when it is gonna flood
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48359 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 8:20 pm to
Good idea, but, I would feel better if the first floor of my living space were 18 feet off of the ground.
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