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Posted on 7/21/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 3:11 pm


This is not an advertisement. Well I guess it’s a testimonial. I’ve been having this cajuncooler since 2020 Covid summer.

I sit out back every afternoon when I’m off, and it makes it totally pleasant and bearable.

It doesn’t have a prayer to keep the entire patio cool, but I just park it about 4-5 ft in front of me, and it’s perfect while I watch the kids swim or watch baseball in afternoon and evenings.

It’s 111° heat index right now. It’s perfect. The fan only mode vs the cool mode on it is instantly distinguishable.

My only issue is the mosquitos laugh at it. I’m thinking about buying some even bigger industrial fan to set up to keep mosquitoes away at night.

Posted by chieftiger
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2004
1349 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 3:36 pm to
I had debated one of those for my patio, but I thought they didn't do much in higher humidity areas? Does it really make a difference?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30748 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 3:40 pm to
I have 2 smaller ones for my little outdoor area. They work great like you said.

Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 3:46 pm to
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Does it really make a difference?


Huge difference. Albeit, only if you’re using it for you and someone sitting right nearby you.


The fan mode just blows the hot air. When you fill with water and turn on the cooler mode, it’s instant heat relief.

I’ve dumped in ice and it makes an even more substantial cooling impact, but the ice melts within 30 mins.

I think other folks use frozen ice packs that they toss in, but mine isn’t set up for that. I’m thinking about an upgrade.

I love this thing. Remember its ideal for 1-2 people at most. But it makes all the difference for me sitting outdoors.
Posted by chieftiger
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2004
1349 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 3:50 pm to
That's cool. No pun intended.

I would place strategically across the sitting area, but obviously farthest from source wouldn't benefit as much, but I also have a big fan to move it around too. What model is that?
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

What model is that?


Tbh , not sure. It was one of the smallest options when I got it. I don’t see it listed anywhere. Looks like most now are an upgrade

Edit: there’s label on back bottom corner …

Evaporative air cooler
Model: CK3000-S
Rating: 110V/60Hz;200W;
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Canvasback
Member since Jan 2016
198 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 4:39 pm to
Your model can fit 1 gallon frozen water jugs. Unscrew the two black wing nuts on the left side intake, pull up on the side, then pull out and down to remove the panel. Lay the gallon water jug in the water reservoir. The water reservoir can only be a little over half full when you put the jug or it will overflow.

Also make sure the water pump is off when you take the panel off or you will get pretty wet.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 4:45 pm to
If you enjoy being wet and hot, instead of just hot, they work great. To be fair, they work ok in the middle of the day when the humidity is lowest. However in evenings or mornings in the South they are worthless.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1171 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

they work ok in the middle of the day when the humidity is lowest. However in evenings or mornings in the South they are worthless.




This is what I've always thought. But don't have any real world experience.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

If you enjoy being wet and hot, instead of just hot, they work great. To be fair, they work ok in the middle of the day when the humidity is lowest. However in evenings or mornings in the South they are worthless.


This doesn’t apply whatsoever. There’s no wetness.

It cools the air and makes sitting outside very pleasant.

After sunset, I typically turn down the cooling feature to low setting because it becomes too much. “Worthless” is furthest from accurate.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Your model can fit 1 gallon frozen water jugs. Unscrew the two black wing nuts on the left side intake, pull up on the side, then pull out and down to remove the panel. Lay the gallon water jug in the water reservoir.


Unfortunately my year of this model doesn’t have this access. I wish. I’m thinking about buying a new and bigger version though. I saw they’re specifically designed for what you describe.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30748 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

I think other folks use frozen ice packs that they toss in, but mine isn’t set up for that. I’m thinking about an upgrade.


I use frozen icepacks in mine. Makes a world of difference.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36800 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:46 pm to
quote:



This doesn’t apply whatsoever. There’s no wetness.


Please explain how your fan defys physics. When humidity levels are at or near 100%, you cannot evaporative cool. During the day when humidity levels are lower, you will get some cooling.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

Please explain how your fan defys physics.


I don’t know . Let me go research it and report back to you

It’s never 100% humidity

But your claim is full of shite. The fan cools things down and significantly lowers the temperature. I’ve shown temperature readings in the past of what it produces without ice. Clearly though… yes it’s just obviously defying the fricking laws of physics in my backyard only. You come tell me jackass



Right now it’s 87° after midnight and I’m currently reading at 79° directly in front of the fan (81% humidity).

With no cooler and just the fan only mode going, it’s measuring at 86°. Negligible. It’s hot 87° air.


Tomorrow I’ll be sitting out back comfortably when the outside temps are running mid to high 90’s and heat index well over 100. It’s an enormous difference. And no, I won’t be wet.




ETA: I’m just trying to help people out on the home and garden board. Help them sit and relax comfortably in sweltering summer heat.

Not trying to debate “physics” of something you clearly don’t have a handle on. Go study thermodynamics instead and then get back to someone else… don’t message me, cause I don’t give a shite.
This post was edited on 7/22/23 at 12:50 am
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:54 am to
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Right now it’s 87° after midnight and I’m currently reading at 79° directly in front of the fan (81% humidity).


I just don't understand why you find the need to lie? You simply cannot get the temperature drop you're claiming. Sit in front of your wet fan if you wish, but stop misleading people. Bash me all you want, but "facts are stubborn things".

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Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1312 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

ETA: I’m just trying to help people out on the home and garden board. Help them sit and relax comfortably in sweltering summer heat.

Not trying to debate “physics” of something you clearly don’t have a handle on. Go study thermodynamics instead and then get back to someone else… don’t message me, cause I don’t give a shite.


LMAO!!! Well done
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30174 posts
Posted on 7/22/23 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

But your claim is full of shite. The fan cools things down and significantly lowers the temperature. I’ve shown temperature readings in the past of what it produces without ice. Clearly though… yes it’s just obviously defying the fricking laws of physics in my backyard only. You come tell me jackass


His claim is 100% accurate. Evaporative coolers require evaporation to occur for them to work. That is impacted by relative humidity. There is probably more going on with your system than you realize


quote:

Right now it’s 87° after midnight and I’m currently reading at 79° directly in front of the fan (81% humidity).



The numbers you are showing are physically impossible to achieve through only evaporative cooling. At 81% humidity, you would get roughly 3 degF temperature drop through evaporation of water alone. You may add a bit more drop through conduction if the air flows over surfaces colder than the surrounding area. It is also possible (maybe likely) that the system uses a venturi system as part of the intake for the fan. This would provide some cooling on its own and may produce a lower pressure in the water tank area thereby allowing for more evaporation.

So either you are reporting the numbers incorrectly or there is more going on than you are aware of or telling us.

quote:

With no cooler and just the fan only mode going, it’s measuring at 86°. Negligible. It’s hot 87° air.


A fan does not cool anything lower than the air it is blowing. The reason we feel cooler with a fan blowing over us is due to the air typically being cooler than 98.6, our body temp, so heat is removed through conduction. Again, this makes me think there is more than evaporative cooling going on.

quote:

Not trying to debate “physics” of something you clearly don’t have a handle on. Go study thermodynamics instead and then get back to someone else… don’t message me, cause I don’t give a shite.



Kind of read like you were but Not sure about the guy who originally replied but I had my fill of thermodynamics hen I got my degree. It is interesting but only in small doses

Enjoy your patio, it this is working for you, who really cares why.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:03 am to
To
quote:

mdomingue
In all sincerity… Thanks for your reply.

First of all , ole “draggingass” is claiming people are getting wet in front of it. He lost me there. Wrong. Just plain dead wrong.

This guy(or gal) is full of shite.

I’m glad you brought this up. I have no reason to waste my time and lie about temperature readings to the home and garden board. But I took photos with time stamps to back up my “claim”. I knew this would come up.

I admit it’s very possible the humidity wasn’t 81% at the time. But I googled on the phone what was local humidity and that’s what I was given. 81%. I took a screenshot at that very time. Unfortunately I don’t have a way to measure it personally, but I would assume it’s close to accurate.




Most importantly , please explain with numbers and calculations how the outflow air temperature will be affected by the water temperature that’s inside the tank. It’s measurable. When the water inside hits and matches outdoor surrounding temperature, well certainly that wouldn’t be expected to cool as well. Clearly.

But there’s substantial cooling taking place when water is fresh and cool from the hose or has ice or the aforementioned frozen ice jugs inside. Straight up cold air comes out. It’s cold and it’s measurable.

How do those numbers of water temperature impact the outflow air temp readings and calculations?

TIA
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 1:02 am
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 7/24/23 at 12:32 am to
quote:

I use frozen icepacks in mine. Makes a world of difference.


Don’t tell that to draggingass. He and his thermo chart can’t account for that variable. He’ll never believe you. And make sure you have a towel on hand from how wet he claims you’ll get.
This post was edited on 7/24/23 at 12:51 am
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