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OT HVAC pros...recommend WiFi controllable thermostat
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:59 pm
Doesn't have to be learning, needs to look good - will need four of them. Some programability is ok as long as it doesn't require a degree in computer or electrical engineering to work.
Will be replacing older generation Nests. Is the stuff the pros sell better than consumer grade from Lowe's/HD, etc? I'm sure my HVAC company is going to have some recs - just looking for some background info. Thanks in advance.
Will be replacing older generation Nests. Is the stuff the pros sell better than consumer grade from Lowe's/HD, etc? I'm sure my HVAC company is going to have some recs - just looking for some background info. Thanks in advance.
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:03 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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You can also get the remote sensor for another area— tell the main stat to only look at the sensor, or average between main stat and sensor,
OR
Just don’t get the auxillary sensor
You can also get the remote sensor for another area— tell the main stat to only look at the sensor, or average between main stat and sensor,
OR
Just don’t get the auxillary sensor
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:03 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
Honeywell with residio app ftw
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:04 pm to SirWinston
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Honeywell
As much as I wanted to be different, I like the google one better than the honeywell.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:06 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:12 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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WiFi controllable thermostat
Isn't that how the government/utilities can control your thermostat?
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:14 pm to texn
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Isn't that how the government/utilities can control your thermostat?
If you sign a contract with your utility company expressly allowing them to do so in return for a monthly discount, sure.
Just... don't do that.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 6:23 pm to SirWinston
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Honeywell with residio app ftw
This is what I have
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:22 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
Another vote for honeywell.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:53 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
The HVAC techs on the HVAC-Talk AOP forum to a man recommend Honeywell or Ecobee and to avoid Nests at all costs. Of course there are many Honeywell or Ecobee WiFi models you can chose from based on your needs. FWIW, I have a Honeywell.
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:05 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
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ill need four of them.
Is this for a zone system?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:03 am to CrawDude
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The HVAC techs on the HVAC-Talk AOP forum to a man recommend Honeywell or Ecobee and to avoid Nests at all costs.
What’s the short version of why? Current house had a Nest already installed when I bought it, so I’m not personally invested either way.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:43 am to Joshjrn
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What’s the short version of why? Current house had a Nest already installed when I bought it, so I’m not personally invested either way.
I’m going to post links to the HVAC-Talk AOP (= ask our professionals) where that question will be answered for you - note that each comment on Nest is by a HVAC professional throughout the USA. This is just a couple threads - there are many more of this type on the site.
The short answer is that they have the potential to cause significant and expensive damage to a HVAC system. Obviously, Nests don’t cause issues with all HVAC systems, otherwise they couldn’t stay in business, but after reading these comments, why would one take a chance.
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:10 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
I stopped using wifi t-stats and would never go back. Just a good quality, simple t-stat is all you need.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:33 am to notsince98
quote:I'm going to disagree because I think remote control, whether from your bed or across the country, is invaluable, but maybe we agree that the "smart" or "learning" stuff is mostly useless. I like to set the temp myself, though I think my ecobees are pretty smart about an upcoming scheduled temp change and they start heating or cooling a bit sooner so that the temp reaches the setpoint at the scheduled time. I also like collecting all of the temp, humidity, and runtime data mostly because I'm a data freak but also because I can use it for stuff.
I stopped using wifi t-stats and would never go back. Just a good quality, simple t-stat is all you need.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:40 am to Korkstand
I think the value in a good thermostat is not only in the remote control from anywhere but also geolocation of switching from away/home mode. I agree the smart and learning stuff is too much because its very rare you have the same schedule every day forever. When I leave home though, not having to worry about setting my thermostat is absolutely huge.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:51 am to BigPapiDoesItAgain
I’ve had Sensi and Honeywell, prefer the Honeywell.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:15 pm to LSUDbrous90
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think the value in a good thermostat is not only in the remote control from anywhere but also geolocation of switching from away/home mode. I agree the smart and learning stuff is too much because its very rare you have the same schedule every day forever. When I leave home though, not having to worry about setting my thermostat is absolutely huge.
You can't use setbacks if you have a properly sized system. All the bells and whistles are only good if you waste money and energy on every aspect of the system.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:25 pm to notsince98
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You can't use setbacks if you have a properly sized system. All the bells and whistles are only good if you waste money and energy on every aspect of the system.
Can you clarify this? What do you mean by this?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:35 pm to Gauge
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Can you clarify this? What do you mean by this?
A properly sized system will only be able to maintain your setpoint at the peak cooling days. So lets say your system is sized to maintain 72F in peak summer. If you set it to 77F during the day, it isn't going to be able to recover back to 72F until well after sundown.
If you can utilize setbacks during peak cooling times, then the system is oversized. Issues with oversized systems:
- wasted money as you buy larger equipment than needed
- increased energy losses as the system will start/stop more. highest efficiencies happen during long runs, not short runs.
- increased wear and tear with higher number of start/stops
- shorter run times lead to less dehumidification, less consistent air movement indoors and overall less comfort as a result.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 2:37 pm
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