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Lawn Burweed in grass

Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:43 am
Posted by tigerweb
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 8:43 am
My yard is about an acre+ on the Amite river. Any time the river comes up it deposits any and all weed seeds. Within the last few years it deposited stickers/lawn burweed. These stickers have completely taken over the yard. I researched and found out picking them one by one out of yard is the only way to get rid of them. This is unrealistic for me. My question is, I am about to reseed my lawn with Carpet Grass seed. If I double up and get the carpet grass seed real thick will this drown out the stickers? Should I use a different type of grass to do this? Any suggestions is appreciated.

This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 8:47 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15182 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 9:45 am to
I feel for you. My brother-in-law owns a couple acre property with a nice house, built in pool and large, well manicured lawn and he has that crap.

He's been dealing with it for about 4 years now and still doesn't have it under control. Most of his yard is St. Augustine grass, which is a pretty thick variety, but it still pops through.

He's tried weed & feed, digging and pulling (which is a lesson in futility) and even spot treating with weed killer, but it's still there.

Wish I had better news to offer.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 11:55 am
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 10:04 am to
I just hit mine with WeedFreeZone this week. I'm going to hit it with Weed and Feed in a couple of weeks. I've had mixed results. I hate that crap.

I've heard, it's best is to lay down pre-emergent for it. It's damn near impossible to kill once its up.
Posted by tigerweb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/28/19 at 9:05 am to
At what point of the year do you lay down pre-emergent to treat for Burweed?
Posted by TygerB8
Youngsville
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:54 pm to
Interested in this answer as well. I applied pre-emergent in late February. I have been told to apply it again in Oct/Nov (ie, 2x year) but i was wondering if there should be another application in between. Thanks!
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:37 pm to
Not sure where you live, but in my area (N. Ala) we tend to do two pre-m applications in spring and two in fall. Get the first one in by mid Feb and the second one 6 weeks later. Make sure you use half rates on the chemicals when doing sequential apps.
Posted by TygerB8
Youngsville
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:24 pm to
Thanks. What type of pre-emergent do you use for lawn burweed control? I have used this but i don't believe it controls lawn burweed based on label.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:27 pm to
I am on the Diversion Canal and this is in my yard also. I have mainly bermudagrass, anyone know if msma will kill this stuff?
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:19 pm to
I typically don't pre-m with burweed in mind. Crabgrass is my main target, but I used Prodiamine under the trade name Kade 65. I believe what you linked uses the chemical Dithiopyr, or Dimension, also a good broad spectrum pre-m, and it also has some post emergence control or suppression on some weeds.

ETA: It's a good idea to use different pre-m chemicals every couple of years.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

anyone know if msma will kill this stuff?


MSMA is only for grassy weeds, not broadleafs.

Now MSM may kill it. It's not listed on the label, but it's gets rid of most broadleafs it comes in contact with.
Posted by Feindav
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 5:59 pm to
What is the weed that resembles burweed but the stickers aren’t actually pointy and strong? Instead, they’re thin and almost soft.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56065 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:00 pm to
The only thing has worked for me is to fertilize the shite out of everything and let the turf grass choke it out. Of course, this requires a good bit of cooperation from the rain, etc.
Posted by Gator feather
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:03 am to
LSU Ag Center


It isnt on the label but I used msmturf (Metsulfuron Methyl) this year on burweed in my carpetgrass and it absolutely smoked it. It was slow to show results but after about 2 weeks it was completely brown and dead. I applied the last week of March and think I got most of it before it formed the seeds (stickers).

The good thing with msmturf is that a little bit goes a long way and its cheap. I think I applied at .75oz/acre for the burweed and it cleaned up most of the other broadleaf weeds as well.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:05 am
Posted by tigerweb
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Gator feather



Will you use msmturf (Metsulfuron Methyl) more than once a year. Should I put it out in Winter and then again in march?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:40 am to
MSM is a slow acting herbicide. It also works better in the warmer months. Use tripower in the winter. Tripower has a quick knock down rate.
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:19 pm to
One issue with burweed is that even after it is dead, the spines are still in the turf and take a while to break down. Good luck!
Posted by Gator feather
Member since Jan 2017
14 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 4:15 pm to
I usually only use it in the spring to clean up anything in my carpetgrass that my pre emergent (prodiamine) didn't catch. The lable on msmturf says not to use in temperatures above 85 degrees or damage to the grass can occur. My front yard is st Augustine so i will use Celsius on it once temperatures get high but it cant be used on carpetgrass.
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