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Large patches of dead area in lawn - St. Aug
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:41 am
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:41 am
After the heat/drought in August, I have some large patches in the yard that are just dead or have sparse growth.
I put some top soil down recently (about a month ago) to give some added nutrients/soil.
I put some weed and feed down early this morning and hoping we get some good rain. How long does this usually take to grow back and what can I do to help the process further?
I had a really nice, think, healthy lawn and now looking pretty bad. Any advice would be great. Thanks
I put some top soil down recently (about a month ago) to give some added nutrients/soil.
I put some weed and feed down early this morning and hoping we get some good rain. How long does this usually take to grow back and what can I do to help the process further?
I had a really nice, think, healthy lawn and now looking pretty bad. Any advice would be great. Thanks
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:52 am to Laugh More
Based on what I’ve seen around in other yards my guess would be Chinch bugs killed your grass-it ain’t coming back in its own.
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:04 am to Laugh More
Have you seen a lot of white moths? Likely sod webworms
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:18 am to Laugh More
Pics? Also pics of up close blades
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:19 am to jlsufan
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Have you seen a lot of white moths? Likely sod webworms
I think he's aware of the culprit with the mention of the heat and drought. It's very common in my area right now. I luckily only have a few small spots since I have lots of shade, but some yards with direct sunlight got torched this summer.
For the spots that I do have, I raked out the dead grass and covered in compost. Will be putting out some pre-emergent this week followed by fertilizer. Typically don't mess with it that much, but like the OP, trying to keep it strong through the winter to get a full recovery in spring. Doubt there's enough growing season left to fully get rid of the patches.
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:36 am to Jon A thon
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I raked out the dead grass and covered in compost.
Would peetmoss be an option as well? I re-sodded a large portion but still have a few dead areas
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:56 am to LSU-MNCBABY
My understanding is peetmoss is great for moisture control, but I believe something like compost is going to be more nutrient dense to help fertilize the area. Admittedly don't know a ton. I re-sodded half of my back yard in the spring so been learning as much as I can to save from having to do it all over again.
I do have a neighbor who won't use any chemical lawn products due to a grandchild that apparently has issues with it. He top dresses in compost every year and I have to say, his grass comes in nice and thick, so I started following suit on a smaller scale at least.
I do have a neighbor who won't use any chemical lawn products due to a grandchild that apparently has issues with it. He top dresses in compost every year and I have to say, his grass comes in nice and thick, so I started following suit on a smaller scale at least.
Posted on 10/11/23 at 10:57 am to Laugh More
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I put some weed and feed down early this morning and hoping we get some good rain. How long does this usually take to grow back and what can I do to help the process further?
This was not the product to be using this time of the year - will likely cause more harm than good. You don’t fertilize St Aug with nitrogen prior to it going into winter dormancy, nor do you “feed” a possible lawn disease.
As Meeple stated you need to provide photos, plus close ups of leaf blades, could be insects (cinch bugs, sod web worms), disease (large patch, take all root rot, gray leaf spot) - you’re not providing enough info for anyone to give you much assistance.
Posted on 10/11/23 at 11:00 am to CrawDude
Feedback noted. I will try and get some pics soon to share with the class.
Posted on 10/11/23 at 5:56 pm to CrawDude
Yea weed and feed is terrible
Posted on 10/12/23 at 7:46 am to Laugh More
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Large patches of dead area in lawn - St. Aug
sod
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:56 am to Laugh More
Sod Webworms tore my yard up. They were hiding in my distyliums so I never saw them. Lawn started getting brown late last week then all of a sudden half the yard was eaten.
Sprayed them Tuesday and haven't seen a moth since.
Sprayed them Tuesday and haven't seen a moth since.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:53 am to Pintail
The water table just got to low. This made my sprinklers not have near enough pressure. To avoid crazy water bills we put our sprinklers on the well. We'll have to lay sod in all the dead areas at some point.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:18 pm to SteveLSU35
Chinch bugs took out my entire back yard this year.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:25 am to Laugh More
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Large patches of dead area in lawn - St. Aug
Cinch bug damage
Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:01 pm to Wtodd
I’m having a similar issue all the sudden. At first I thought it was the result of the heat and drought, but with the way it is spreading I’m guessing it is something else.
See attached pictures. St Aug, NOLA area
Does this look like the effects of cinch bugs? Any remediation recs?
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:54 pm to Koonu
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Koonu
That looks like it could be chinch bugs or take-all rot root - severe damage for both looks similar. Chinch bugs were an exceptionally severe issue in New Orleans this year according to Dan Gill, retired LSU Ag Center horticultural extension specialist.
I’ve attached LSU AgCenter fact sheets for each - you can do a flush test to check for cinch bugs, described in the fact sheet. Read each fact sheet and the symptoms to see if you can diagnose the issue.
Control methods, chemical/pesticides, are listed in each fact sheet. If you think it is Take All Root Rot, Scott’s Disease Ex would be a good initial treatment.
Southern Chinch Bug
Take-All Root Rot
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:15 pm to CrawDude
Thanks this is very helpful! After reading both, the symptoms largely resemble Take All Root Rot. especially the part about easy to remove stolons. I'll start with disease X to try and get it under control.
some of the areas seem already beyond repair. what would be the best practice for re-sodding? i dont want to re-sod just to have it occur again.
thanks again.
some of the areas seem already beyond repair. what would be the best practice for re-sodding? i dont want to re-sod just to have it occur again.
thanks again.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 7:54 am to Koonu
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Does this look like the effects of cinch bugs?
Yes
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Any remediation recs?
Resod in the Spring
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:39 am to Koonu
I'd lean more towards take all patch. You have that spot where you can see bare dirt and you typically don't see that with chinch bugs. Chinch bugs resemble drought stress so you'd see dried up, crunchy grass.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 7:03 am
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