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So protein has 4 calories per Gram...
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:05 pm
according to everything I read, so 250 grams of protein is only 1,000 calories,
My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary.
I'm lifting regularly now and putting on muscle, but how much more protein, if any, should I be taking in? I'm eating mostly protein and low carb and trying to lose my beer gut, but I don't want to take in too few calories. Based on posts I've been reading here, the numbers don't seem to be adding up, and I have a feeling I'm missing something.
My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary.
I'm lifting regularly now and putting on muscle, but how much more protein, if any, should I be taking in? I'm eating mostly protein and low carb and trying to lose my beer gut, but I don't want to take in too few calories. Based on posts I've been reading here, the numbers don't seem to be adding up, and I have a feeling I'm missing something.
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:10 pm to TigerGman
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so 250 grams of protein is only 1,000 calories,
Good luck hitting that.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:33 pm to TigerGman
.7-.8g per lb of body weight should work for pretty much everyone. 1g per lb would all but guarantee you are getting enough essential amino acids.
Anything more than that is unnecessary.
Split that total up over 4 meals with your first and last meal being the most important.
This is what my protein intake looks like at 185lbs:
6:30 45g
10:30 33 grams
2:30 35 grams
6:30 45g
Anything more than that is unnecessary.
Split that total up over 4 meals with your first and last meal being the most important.
This is what my protein intake looks like at 185lbs:
6:30 45g
10:30 33 grams
2:30 35 grams
6:30 45g
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:34 pm to TigerGman
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My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary.
What’s this based on? I highly doubt this unless youre 300lbs or have a shite metric ton of lean muscle.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:17 pm to TigerGman
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My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary
Not likely
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:47 pm to TigerGman
If you want to lose weight, counting calories will work for some people. But counting calories is not the best way to try to lose weight. Basically if you eat healthy food only you will not be over weight.
My wife has never had a weight problem. She couldn't gain weight to save her life. Then one day her hormones changed and she had to starve herself to not gain weight. She had to stay under 1000 calories a day.
Eating healthy isn't easy. And 90% of the people will say they are when they are really not. For example at one point the highest calorie food you could order from walk on's was a SALAD. So someone eating that and probably drinking a diet coke with it would tell ya, they ate a healthy diet.
Most foods we eat today are highly processed crap. It take a major effort to eat healthy. Stop counting calories and start eating all the healthy.
My wife has never had a weight problem. She couldn't gain weight to save her life. Then one day her hormones changed and she had to starve herself to not gain weight. She had to stay under 1000 calories a day.
Eating healthy isn't easy. And 90% of the people will say they are when they are really not. For example at one point the highest calorie food you could order from walk on's was a SALAD. So someone eating that and probably drinking a diet coke with it would tell ya, they ate a healthy diet.
Most foods we eat today are highly processed crap. It take a major effort to eat healthy. Stop counting calories and start eating all the healthy.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:15 pm to TigerGman
You’re eating 250g protein and not near 2400 calories? Are you eating food or just protein shakes? Get some fat in there.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:18 pm to omegaman66
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If you want to lose weight, counting calories will work for some people. But counting calories is not the best way to try to lose weight. Basically if you eat healthy food only you will not be over weight.
So if I consume 4000 calories a day if healthy food I'll eventually be thin? This is the worst advice ever. You can easily eat excess calories eating healthy foods.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:05 pm to TigerGman
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So protein has 4 calories per Gram
Yes. And it's the same as carbs. Fats are 9 calories per gram. But the one that most people do not know is that Alcohol is 7 calories per gram.
When you talk about your "beer gut", take a look at all the calories your alcohol intake is causing. Since Alcohol is a poison and not a "nutrient", for the most part it does not have to be accounted for on a nutrition label.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:37 am to omegaman66
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And 90% of the people will say they are when they are really not.
You nailed it. A lot of folks think they are eating healthy when in reality they are doing anything but.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:44 am to Powerman
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So if I consume 4000 calories a day if healthy food I'll eventually be thin? This is the worst advice ever. You can easily eat excess calories eating healthy foods.
All calories are not created equal. 4,000 calories of steak and eggs isn’t the same as 4000 calories of lucky charms and pizza. Especially when it comes to building muscle and losing fat. You also have to look at what the ‘calories’ you are eating are going to do the lucky charms and pizza is going to spike the hell out of your insulin for one. Anyone can lose weight eating one meal at Subway and one meal of McDonald’s a day but you aren’t going to build muscle and you are going to look and feel like shite because it’s fricking unhealthy.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:59 am to Powerman
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You can easily eat excess calories eating healthy foods.
Eh...I don't know if I'd go with "easily". You're more than likely going to feel like you are stuffing yourself if you are overeating on only good 'healthy' food.
4,000 calories a day of whole, measured, healthy food is elite level bodybuilder type of stuff, and they have to have insane discipline and almost torture themselves to get that type of diet in.
I'd say for most people, if they actually limit themselves to 'only healthy food' then yeh, they will probably not need to count calories to lose weight/maintain a healthy weight. The body will regulate that pretty damn well. The problem is being honest about it. Eating eggs and oats for breakfast, chicken and rice for lunch, and steak and veggies for dinner is a really easy way to stay full on a <1500 calorie diet. But if you sneak in a glass of milk, snack on some chips, and have a coke between meals all of the sudden you are way outside of weight loss/healthy range.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 7:08 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:03 am to Fe_Mike
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Eh...I don't know if I'd go with "easily". You're more than likely going to feel like you are stuffing yourself if you are overeating on only good 'healthy' food.
Completely disagree
There are plenty of "healthy" foods that are also calorie dense. You can easily eat in a caloric surplus eating only healthy food.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:13 am to Powerman
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You can easily eat in a caloric surplus eating only healthy food.
Of course you can. That's how muscle is built. That's how you should be eating.
The average american, eating only a 'healthy diet', and stopping when they are satiated is not going to come close to overeating on healthy food. I guarantee it.
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There are plenty of "healthy" foods that are also calorie dense.
Come on, use some logic here. Obviously if all someone eats is yogurt and peanut butter shakes it's not healthy. Let's try to avoid hyperbole in a logical discussion.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:16 am to Fe_Mike
Even with a more diverse set of food you can easily eat in a caloric surplus
I'm not sure why anyone is even debating this
I'm not sure why anyone is even debating this
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:21 am to Powerman
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I'm not sure why anyone is even debating this
Because you're wrong.
Give me your "easy to eat 2000+ calories a day of only healthy food diet" please.
And again, we're not talking about tracking food and eating in a caloric surplus with a purpose.
We're talking about an average american, who likely eats 3 meals a day tops, and isn't tracking food. Not weightlifters and fitness people.
Obviously if I'm trying to build muscle and in the gym most days and have a 5-6 meal plan for every day it's not too hard to eat in a surplus. I guarantee you that a typical human with no knowledge of calorie counting or diet who is eating max 3 meals a day of healthy options (chicken, rice, lean beef, fish, veggies, oats, avocados, nuts) is not going to sniff 2,000 calories.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 7:27 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:23 am to Fe_Mike
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Because you're wrong.
Great argument
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Give me your "easy to eat 2000+ calories a day of only healthy food diet" please.
Guess you would need to define what healthy food is
List out several foods that you think are healthy and anyone could easily come up with the math to where one could consistently eat in a caloric surplus if they weren't showing restraint with portions
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:48 am to Powerman
Someone just eat 4000 cal of healthy food and screenshot your tracker and let’s end this debate. If it’s not done by end of day the science will be settled that it’s impossible.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:22 am to BigPerm30
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My TDEE is around 2400 sedentary.
What’s this based on? I highly doubt this unless youre 300lbs or have a shite metric ton of lean muscle.
I ran it through an online calculator. I'm 64. 5'5 and weigh 240
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:33 am to OysterPoBoy
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Someone just eat 4000 cal of healthy food and screenshot your tracker and let’s end this debate.
Easy.
Quick easy 6AM breakfast of 6 eggs and 2 cups of oats.
At 9 AM I'm obviously starving, so I have 4 slices of toast, 4 tablespoons of peanut butter, and a whole avocado.
By 11:30 I can't stand that I'm not eating yet so I knock back 6 oz of chicken and 150 g of rice.
That naturally doesn't hold me over long so at 2 PM I put back another 6 oz of chicken and 150 g of rice.
By 4 PM I feel like I'm withering away so I have a small shake to hold me over til dinner. 1 cup of egg whites, 1 cup of yogurt, 1 cup of berries, 1 cup of oats.
At 7 PM I load up on a 6 oz filet and a cup of mashed potatoes.
Bam. Oh, wait...that's only 3700 calories....luckily I'm still hungry so a late night protein shake and handful of nuts should get me 4000. Noooooo problem.
And that's an easy day for your typical 200 lb male with 30+% body fat. Noooooo problem. Probably could crack 6000 calories if we didn't limit them with those tiny healthy portions.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 8:37 am
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