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re: Who has been the best golfer in the world since Tigers last reign at #1 in 2014?

Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:43 pm to
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It’s 23 total vs 22 total.

It's not
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Rory has not won 23 PGA tournaments since 2014?

Correct, and 6 more that were not PGA events. DJ has only won 19 PGA events, plus 2 non PGA events, plus 2 LIV events.

So 29 to 23

I don't know why you want to ignore the European events. Well I do, but it's funny regardless

ETA: Excuse me, 9 more non PGA Events for Rory (since you're using career and not since 05/11/14. he won in Dubai in 2009, in Hong Kong in 2011, and again in Dubai in 2012.

Here are their wiki pages if you want to compare

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This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:45 pm to
Bruh… show your work. List out the 29 tournaments that Rory has won… bc he definitely has not.


Anyways, I already said it’s not all about wins but for some reason that’s what you want to hone in on.

DJ has been the best golfer in the world since 2014
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:47 pm to
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Excuse me, 9 more non PGA Events for Rory




I told you on page 1 that you’re double counting his wins on euro tour. I don’t think you can comprehend.

His major wins & WGC wins do not count twice.

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since you're using career and not since 05/11/14


I’m not?
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 2:49 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:53 pm to
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show your work. List out the 29 tournaments that Rory has won

1. 2009 Dubai Desert Classic
2. 2010 Quail Hollow Championship
3. 2011 UBS Hong Kong Open1
4. 2011 U.S. Open
5. 2012 DP World Tour Championship, Dubai
6. 2012 Honda Classic
7. 2012 PGA Championship
8. 2012 Deutsche Bank Championship
9. 2012 BMW Championship
10. 2014 The Open Championship
11. 2014 WGC-Bridgestone Invitational
12. 2014 PGA Championship
13. 2015 Omega Dubai Desert Classic
14. 2015 WGC-Cadillac Match
15. 2015 Wells Fargo Championship
16. 2015 DP World Tour Championship, Dubai
17. 2016 Deutsche Bank Championship
18. 2016 Tour Championship
19. 2016 Dubai Duty Free Irish Open
20. 2018 Arnold Palmer Invitational
21. 2019 The Players Championship
22. 2019 RBC Canadian Open
23. 2019 Tour Championship
24. 2019 WGC-HSBC Champions
25. 2021 Wells Fargo Championship
26. 2021 CJ Cup
27. 2022 RBC Canadian Open
28. 2022 Tour Championship
29. 2022 CJ Cup
30. 2023 Hero Dubai Desert Classic
31. 2023 Genesis Scottish Open
32. 2024 Hero Dubai Desert Classic

Sorry, shorted Rory a few. It's 32 worldwide wins
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:54 pm to
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I’m not?

Then why did you give DJ 19 PGA Tour wins? He only has 16 since 05/11/14
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:59 pm to
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10. 2014 The Open Championship

So starting here would give him 23
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:00 pm to
DJ's complete list of wins aorldwide

2008 Turning Stone Resort Championship
2009 AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am
2010 AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am
2010 BMW Championship
2011 The Barclays
2012 FedEx St. Jude Classic
2013 Hyundai Tournament of Champions
2013 WGC-HSBC Champions
2015 WGC-Cadillac Championship
2016 U.S. Open
2016 WGC-Bridgestone Invitational
2016 BMW Championship
2017 Genesis Open
2017 WGC-Mexico Championship
2017 WGC-Dell Technologies Match Play
2017 The Northern Trust
2018 Sentry Tournament of Champions
2018 FedEx St. Jude Classic
2018 RBC Canadian Open
2019 Saudi International
2019 WGC-Mexico Championship
2020 Travelers Championship
2020 The Northern Trust
2020 Tour Championship
2020 Masters Tournament
2021 Saudi International
2022 LIV Golf Invitational Boston
2023 LIV Golf Tulsa
2024 LIV Golf Las Vegas

Total worldwide wins 29
Since May of 2014: 21
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:00 pm to
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Then why did you give DJ 19 PGA Tour wins? He only has 16 since 05/11/14



I gave you one back last page. He has 16 on PGA, 2 on euro, & 3 on LIV.

Glad we can finally agree that it’s 23 vs 21
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:01 pm to
Where yall are different is you're going career and he's starting in 2014.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:10 pm to
So Rory has more tour wins, they have the same amount of major wins, and DJ has 13 more weeks as world #1. If I'm you, I probably just compare their Ryder Cup records since Rory literally can't play in the President's Cup. Since 2014 Rory has played in 5, DJ in 3. Their career Ryder Cup records since 2014 are: DJ 8-6 (2-1 in singles); Rory 12-10-2 (3-2 in singles)

Kind of splitting hairs here
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 4:39 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:16 pm to
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Kind of splitting hairs here


I already listed the many reasons why DJ has been a better golfer since 2014. We’ve settled on their professional wins since 2014 as 23 vs 21.

You can disagree if you want, but that is who I think has been the best….. even if he is currently ranked 297th

When he left for LIV, he was #12 & Rory was #7.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 3:17 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:16 pm to
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I already listed the many reasons why DJ has been a better golfer since 2014.


You reasons in your post were

"More wins, more majors, more $, & longer time spent as #1."

Only one of those is accurate
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4800 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:18 pm to
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has more $, more appearances & team wins in international competition, more time spent as #1, and is a Masters Champion.

4 of these are true
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:19 pm to
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4 of these are true

1 of them isn't true, and 2 of them are intellectually dishonest, but you do you
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:21 pm to
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When he left for LIV, he was #12 & Rory was #7.

You wanna talk how each has done in majors since DJ left for LIV? Rory has 6 top 10 finishes out of 7 majors and 1 missed cut. DJ has 2 top 10 finishes and 2 missed cuts
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4800 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:24 pm to
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You wanna talk how each has done in majors since DJ left for LIV?


Nah… the discussion is since 2014. Looking at the entire 10 yr period

I get it. You think Rory has been better than DJ. That’s cool
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Looking at the entire 10 yr period

You interjected their current world rankings and what they were pre DJ leaving for LIV. I was responding to that.

If it wasn't relevant to this thread and you didn't want to discuss that, then why even post it?

DJ's world ranking very likely would have dropped regardless. Even leading up to his exit, he wasn't playing his best golf. Prior to his exit, the 2021-22 season, he'd played 10 PGA Tour events with just 2 top 10 finishes, and 3 missed cuts. He was #1 in the world in July of 2021 and had fallen to 13th in just under a year. prior to that, he hadn't been outside the top 5 since 2016 and hadn't been outside the top 10 since March of 2015.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:47 pm to
DJ - America!
Rory - not America
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4800 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:39 am to
Further proof that it’s DJ….

He spent 135 weeks as #1, but he also remained in top 10 for 355 consecutive weeks from 2015-2022.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 10:05 am to
Would not have guessed JT was in the top 10 for that long. His stretch of really good play was longer than thought. I guess because he played so poorly last year it makes you forget his good stretch.

Wonder long long Rory spent outside the top 10 in that stretch. Wouldn't think it's be long.

Ian Woosnam another surprise name
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