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re: What was the key to fixing your driver slice when you started golfing?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:26 am to Blind Eye
Posted on 6/4/20 at 8:26 am to Blind Eye
I'm not really sure what I did because I haven't filmed it to compare, but I haven't sliced a drive in my last two rounds. My drives have actually been remarkably consistent on back 9's. All I can figure is that I'm keeping my body centered and really focusing on eliminating any type of sway, just turning back and up and coming down. I'm not even thinking on the downswing, just hitting the ball. Even hit a few baby draws yesterday
I played 18 yesterday and shot a 94. It's the first time I've kept score, and I left a ton of strokes on the table. I still hit awful awful shots every few holes on my approach, as in hitting an 8 iron from 140 out and the ball goes 40 yards type awful, or chunking a chip from the edge of the green and the ball goes 10 feet. Not to mention the 3 putts.
I played the back 9 by myself so got my money's worth on the 18th hole and hit 3 off the tee. All landed middle of the fairway within 10 yards of each other. Second shot was with my 3 wood, same thing. All withing 10 yards of each other, just off the green.
If I could only transfer that "warmed up" ability to the front 9 I think I could be somewhat decent.
I played 18 yesterday and shot a 94. It's the first time I've kept score, and I left a ton of strokes on the table. I still hit awful awful shots every few holes on my approach, as in hitting an 8 iron from 140 out and the ball goes 40 yards type awful, or chunking a chip from the edge of the green and the ball goes 10 feet. Not to mention the 3 putts.
I played the back 9 by myself so got my money's worth on the 18th hole and hit 3 off the tee. All landed middle of the fairway within 10 yards of each other. Second shot was with my 3 wood, same thing. All withing 10 yards of each other, just off the green.
If I could only transfer that "warmed up" ability to the front 9 I think I could be somewhat decent.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 8:28 am
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:29 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I start my swing trying to go behind me rather than up and around. My first move is literally feels like I am trying to touch the ground with the club head behind my legs. nice baby draws when I do this. Struggled with the fade/slice for my entire life up until recently when I started doing this.
Drill I did was put an alignment stick pointed in between 4 and 5 0clock on the ground off of my trail foot (ball is 12). Try to keep hands and club on the inside of that line during take away. the severity of the slice dictates what hour you put the stick on.
Drill I did was put an alignment stick pointed in between 4 and 5 0clock on the ground off of my trail foot (ball is 12). Try to keep hands and club on the inside of that line during take away. the severity of the slice dictates what hour you put the stick on.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:40 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I had a terrible slice for years and finally rebuilt my swing this year. Some of the things I do are no-nos such as I'm all upper body. I'm averaging 270 and have gotten 300 yards occasionally out of a drive and it's going straight 90% of the time. I'm doing what works for me. Once I get the lower body involved, I go to slice city. Something I will probably take a lesson to fix. If you want to figure out if it's coming from your hips or from your upper body, remove the lower body out of it to isolate the source of the problem.
My swing thoughts when lining up for a drive is to put my weight on the back foot before I even get to swinging (probably a no-no), and I focus on keeping that weight over the back foot until I make contact. I'm basically taking the backswing lower body movement out of my swing. It confirms that my problem is in the lower body and not the upper body.
One thing that is absolutely proper is to focus on hitting the ball on the upswing and not on the downswing. It seems like a small change but if you focus on hitting the apex of your swing before striking the ball, and get your club coming up before striking the ball, it'll allow your hands to naturally come around and stop leaving the club face open.
The upswing only applies to driver. On irons, you want to hit down on the ball. That is another thing I changed this year and my iron strikes are WAY more consistent and go further.
94 for the first time keeping your score is respectful. Out of curiosity, do you take any mulligans while playing? When keeping score, do yourself a service and count 100% of your strokes even if you duff it 2' or slice it off into the abyss. When I first "broke 100", I was taking mulligans periodically. It made it hell on seeing progress even though I knew I was making progress and shooting the "same score". The progress was more in the way of not taking mulligans or counting drops. I didn't see it in the "score". I don't know you so this is absolutely not an accusation but something I see a lot of golf buddies do routinely. And I was guilty of it also. That third putt that "should have gone in" isn't the last stroke you count.
My swing thoughts when lining up for a drive is to put my weight on the back foot before I even get to swinging (probably a no-no), and I focus on keeping that weight over the back foot until I make contact. I'm basically taking the backswing lower body movement out of my swing. It confirms that my problem is in the lower body and not the upper body.
One thing that is absolutely proper is to focus on hitting the ball on the upswing and not on the downswing. It seems like a small change but if you focus on hitting the apex of your swing before striking the ball, and get your club coming up before striking the ball, it'll allow your hands to naturally come around and stop leaving the club face open.
The upswing only applies to driver. On irons, you want to hit down on the ball. That is another thing I changed this year and my iron strikes are WAY more consistent and go further.
94 for the first time keeping your score is respectful. Out of curiosity, do you take any mulligans while playing? When keeping score, do yourself a service and count 100% of your strokes even if you duff it 2' or slice it off into the abyss. When I first "broke 100", I was taking mulligans periodically. It made it hell on seeing progress even though I knew I was making progress and shooting the "same score". The progress was more in the way of not taking mulligans or counting drops. I didn't see it in the "score". I don't know you so this is absolutely not an accusation but something I see a lot of golf buddies do routinely. And I was guilty of it also. That third putt that "should have gone in" isn't the last stroke you count.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:43 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I'm not really sure what I did because I haven't filmed it to compare, but I haven't sliced a drive in my last two rounds. My drives have actually been remarkably consistent on back 9's. All I can figure is that I'm keeping my body centered and really focusing on eliminating any type of sway, just turning back and up and coming down. I'm not even thinking on the downswing, just hitting the ball. Even hit a few baby draws yesterday
Sounds like you were probably swinging too hard and overcompensating by opening your stance to aim way left
Just got to the development the muscle memory to what you hit well.
My typical miss is a bad hook. It is almost always because how I lined up. Especially when I am not confident, I know I need to line straight and just swing my swing but if there is a house or water in the left I just love to put it there.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 9:53 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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94 for the first time keeping your score is respectful. Out of curiosity, do you take any mulligans while playing?
I usually do but didn't yesterday. I'm going to date and keep a record of the scorecards so I can document any progression or regression. 22 over seems pretty bad to me, but then again I don't really know what's "normal"
I putt everything outside of two feet, but should probably start putting those inside as well
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:45 am to Riseupfromtherubble
An honest 94 is probably better than 75-80% of most weekend hackers, so don't be discouraged.
I've dealt with a slice since I started playing at age 16, and switching to a 10 finger grip on my woods a few years ago changed it to more of a fade than a slice.
I've been working and playing with my brother in law, who was a college golfer and can absolutely hammer the ball (he drove Carter #1 pin high at 327 yards last weekend and had a six foot putt for eagle). What he's taught me is that your feet should aim where you want the ball to start, and your shoulders and club face should align with where you want the ball to finish. For years I've always manipulated the club face to force draws & fades, and that shite is feast or famine. So far it's working, and I'm generally able to hit fades and draws based on whatever the hole calls for
I've dealt with a slice since I started playing at age 16, and switching to a 10 finger grip on my woods a few years ago changed it to more of a fade than a slice.
I've been working and playing with my brother in law, who was a college golfer and can absolutely hammer the ball (he drove Carter #1 pin high at 327 yards last weekend and had a six foot putt for eagle). What he's taught me is that your feet should aim where you want the ball to start, and your shoulders and club face should align with where you want the ball to finish. For years I've always manipulated the club face to force draws & fades, and that shite is feast or famine. So far it's working, and I'm generally able to hit fades and draws based on whatever the hole calls for
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:02 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Right now just play like a bogey is a Par, So a 90 would be shooting Par, When you hit that start working toward a new goal. Dont look at it like your 22 over you just started playing.
For fixing the slice, Ive fought between a fade and slice for years without much consistency. Finally figured it out a couple months ago. I put the ball further back in my stance with a decently strong grib. Dont rush the back swing then just get through the ball. Ive picked up 40 yard on my drive by going from a high fade to a low draw
For fixing the slice, Ive fought between a fade and slice for years without much consistency. Finally figured it out a couple months ago. I put the ball further back in my stance with a decently strong grib. Dont rush the back swing then just get through the ball. Ive picked up 40 yard on my drive by going from a high fade to a low draw
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:19 pm to dirtytigers
Clubface control and awreness.
You have to be aware of the clubface at all times.
Ingraining the feeling of hitting the ball with a square clubface
You have to be aware of the clubface at all times.
Ingraining the feeling of hitting the ball with a square clubface
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:21 pm to dirtytigers
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Right now just play like a bogey is a Par, So a 90 would be shooting Par, When you hit that start working toward a new goal.
Agreed. Playing to bogey golf as a beginner is a good way to measure progress. When you tell your buddies you shot 4 over the other day they’ll be impressed!
Posted on 6/4/20 at 7:17 pm to MikeD
91 today. Should’ve been an 89 but I had a blowup hole. Missed 2 putts from about 20” on 12 for a 7. Birdied a par 5 on 18 though. Hit the ball a lot more crisp today with my irons and wedges. Chipping was best it’s been. Putting was hot and cold
Posted on 6/4/20 at 7:44 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Putting was hot and cold
story of my life
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:27 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Are you the one that played his first round ever like a month ago with female clubs?
If so and you are hitting a true 91 already well then frick you sir!
If so and you are hitting a true 91 already well then frick you sir!
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:46 am to bigberg2000
A month and a half ago now, and thank you sir
I’ve taken a lotttt of swings since then though. I’ve probably had 10-12 four hour sessions at the range just hitting balls, and I’ve played an actual round 2-3 times per week. I’ve probably swung a golf club as much or more than anyone on this board since then. When I don’t play in the afternoons I’m hitting practice balls in the back yard.
My buddies that I play with are a little unnerved by it. 45 days ago they laughed as I tried to get a ball off the first tee. Yesterday I beat one of them and the other one beat me by a stroke, and I’m not sure he counted mulligans. I think me making good shots gets in their head a little
K grind wedge has been a game changer for me. When I find myself in a tough spot near the green, be it sand or rough, that club just plops it right up near the pin. No more awful chips or pitches has taken a lot of strokes off.
I’ve taken a lotttt of swings since then though. I’ve probably had 10-12 four hour sessions at the range just hitting balls, and I’ve played an actual round 2-3 times per week. I’ve probably swung a golf club as much or more than anyone on this board since then. When I don’t play in the afternoons I’m hitting practice balls in the back yard.
My buddies that I play with are a little unnerved by it. 45 days ago they laughed as I tried to get a ball off the first tee. Yesterday I beat one of them and the other one beat me by a stroke, and I’m not sure he counted mulligans. I think me making good shots gets in their head a little
K grind wedge has been a game changer for me. When I find myself in a tough spot near the green, be it sand or rough, that club just plops it right up near the pin. No more awful chips or pitches has taken a lot of strokes off.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 7:50 am
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:58 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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No more awful chips or pitches has taken a lot of strokes off.
Yeah that’s been my killer lately.
Kudos to you for putting in all that work.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:03 am to Riseupfromtherubble
The learning curve is why most people don't want to bother with golf.
I was having a really good round the other day playing in a weekly tournament. Think I was 6 over on the front and then I hit a 10 on the 13th hole. I had two birdies and the rest pars on the back but that 10 ate my lunch. Usually my blow up holes stop at double or triple, but that one had it out for me. Two lost balls and 3 shots out of sand isn't a way to win a hole. Lol.
Anything sub 100 you should feel good about where you are but you're also working to get it lower. It'll drop as long as you continue to practice and work on your technique it will continue to fall. The stalls are what are hard to keep playing through and the lower your score gets the harder it is to make any gains at all.
I was having a really good round the other day playing in a weekly tournament. Think I was 6 over on the front and then I hit a 10 on the 13th hole. I had two birdies and the rest pars on the back but that 10 ate my lunch. Usually my blow up holes stop at double or triple, but that one had it out for me. Two lost balls and 3 shots out of sand isn't a way to win a hole. Lol.
Anything sub 100 you should feel good about where you are but you're also working to get it lower. It'll drop as long as you continue to practice and work on your technique it will continue to fall. The stalls are what are hard to keep playing through and the lower your score gets the harder it is to make any gains at all.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:23 am to WhiskeyThrottle
Got permission to play again this afternoon.
Playing with a coworker that consistently shoots 72-76 on this course, and it's always a mental challenge for me. Even though i'm competing against myself, it's hard not to want to match what he's doing on his approach shots. 140 and in he is hitting the green 8/10 times, and that's the weakest part of my game right now. I hit it farther than him off the tee, but he doesn't hit any atrocious shots. Looking forward to it though, should be a good test coming off my "good" round yesterday.
Playing with a coworker that consistently shoots 72-76 on this course, and it's always a mental challenge for me. Even though i'm competing against myself, it's hard not to want to match what he's doing on his approach shots. 140 and in he is hitting the green 8/10 times, and that's the weakest part of my game right now. I hit it farther than him off the tee, but he doesn't hit any atrocious shots. Looking forward to it though, should be a good test coming off my "good" round yesterday.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:38 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Backswing not coming too far inside helped me the most when I first started.
Almost all beginners snatch the club too far inside and your arms have no room to work, need to get the feeling of keeping the club in front of your chest.
You can practice this at the house, grab a club and almost feel like the club is coming outside on the takeaway.
This was huge for me when I first started.
Almost all beginners snatch the club too far inside and your arms have no room to work, need to get the feeling of keeping the club in front of your chest.
You can practice this at the house, grab a club and almost feel like the club is coming outside on the takeaway.
This was huge for me when I first started.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:14 am to Riseupfromtherubble
My discomfort range is 20 yards off the green. Blading the ball or duffing are what happens 3 or 4 times a round.
140 to 40 yards out are pretty consistent for my game.
Where are you located? Louisiana somewhere?
140 to 40 yards out are pretty consistent for my game.
Where are you located? Louisiana somewhere?
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:22 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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My discomfort range is 20 yards off the green. Blading the ball or duffing are what happens 3 or 4 times a round.
K grind 58 degree wedge (14 degree bounce) has made a lot of difference for me here. Super forgiving club. I'm just not consistent with my iron flight and distance yet, so the approaches are guesswork. Still have an overswing tendency from time to time that results in a really bad shot. I'm in the florida panhandle. home course is 6300 yards from the white tees which is what we play. Not a difficult course but plays like a links course from time to time. Hurricane Michael took out almost all of the trees and the course is on the bay. This also makes it a bitch to find your ball if you miss the fairway because it's all just shredded pine tree debris and weeds. Hitting shots off wood chips is quite the punishment for missing right or left off the tee.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 7:37 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
98 today. Shambolic round. Storm winds picked up on the back 9, but I hit a lot of bad shots that would’ve been bad with no wind. Missed an easy putt for birdie on 18 to salt the wound
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