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Rules Guru, How is this legal?

Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:39 pm
Watching the PGA recently, I noticed several players brushing loose impediments too small to see on TV from their putting lines using the back of their hands.

I thought that touching your intended putting line was verboten.

In fact, one frequently sees players and/or caddies taking great care not to actually touch the green surface when indicating where the ball should be played.

TIA
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:41 pm to
Because it's legal to touch your line while moving loose Impediments
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:42 pm to
You gonna send an email about each one you saw?
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:49 pm to
Thanks Mailman

I thought using a towel or glove to brush away loose impediments was permitted but not touching the line with one's hand.

Seems like an unscrupulous player could alter the grain or other imperfections (not a ball mark) using their hands.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:53 pm to
Ell_13

Does my interest in improving my understanding of the rules irritate you, or are there too many big words in my post for you to understand?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:56 pm to
It's a joke. Either you missed it which is fine or you have zero sense of humor.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:45 pm to
My bad, missed your humor.

I'm a fledgling compared to you 50k posters

Hope to get better as I go.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:08 pm to
for future reference, if several players on the pga tour are doing something, that is strong evidence their behavior is allowed by the rules ...
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7505 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:18 pm to
You can brush away loose impediments, but not "test the surface". The whole not touching your line thing seems pretty nit-picky to me. There is no way you're gonna gain information from touching the line that would give you an advantage on a putt.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:27 pm to
TideRider:

TruDis

I had little doubt it was legal because I saw JT and several other players do it more than once.
Were it illegal CBS would have recieved a flood of calls from viewers to rat the players out.
But this whole touching your line thing is pretty confusing so I came to tge wisemen of tge golf board seeking clarification.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32511 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:39 am to
I learned yesterday that you can't fix spike marks. The tournament rules here allow you to do it, but I never knew it was a thing. It seems like BS to me.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:54 am to
One of the dumbest rules in a dumb game.
Posted by malvin
Member since Apr 2013
4628 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:15 am to
No mulligans is up there with the dumb rules as well. I could have used 6 or 7 of those yesterday
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:24 am to
It's one of the proposed rule changes by the USGA that would take effect in January 2019, IIRC.
Posted by Izzy Mandelbaum Sr
Think you're better than me, huh?
Member since Jul 2017
514 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:25 am to
Mulligans should be for sale in the pro shop next to the beer cooler.
Posted by malvin
Member since Apr 2013
4628 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:34 am to
The mulligan shelf is empty at this goat ranch. Something about PGA rules apply, play it down, putt it out, etc. All horseshite in my opinion
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4461 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:37 am to
And every putt inside the length of flagstick should be a pick up gimme.
Posted by eye dentist43
Member since Jan 2016
170 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 12:52 pm to
Actually, brushing off loose impediments with a towel used to be illegal, while using your hand was legal. I think they may have changed it to both being legal.

Neither player nor caddie can touch the intended line of putt when figuring the line. John Daly had a scary moment at the PGA Championship when he won. They thought the caddie may have touched the line with the flagstick, but was found not to have.
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16250 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 3:04 pm to
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