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Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:50 pm to Mr Gardoki
It's at least mobile phone and tablet games..
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Nintendo has long resisted the call of mobile gaming, but today it entered the space in a big way. The company has announced that it will team up with DeNA, a major Japanese mobile gaming company, to make smartphone games featuring Nintendo characters. The two companies "intend to jointly operate new gaming applications featuring Nintendo IP, which they will develop specifically for smart devices," Nintendo said in a statement.
Nintendo has flirted with mobile gaming before. In a tie-up with GungHo, the company will release a Mario-themed version of Japanese mobile smash hit Puzzle & Dragons for 3DS next month, and recent experiments like Pokémon Shuffle have adopted similar free-to-play business models.
We're at a hastily convened press conference in Tokyo that's due to start soon, and will bring you any further news as it happens.
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TOKYO, JAPAN - March 17, 2015 - Nintendo Co., Ltd. (Tokyo: 7974) and DeNA Co., Ltd. (Tokyo: 2432) today entered into a business and capital alliance to develop and operate new game apps for smart devices and build a new multi-device membership service for consumers worldwide.
Leveraging the strength of Nintendo's intellectual property (IP) and game development skills in combination with DeNA's world-class expertise in mobile games, both companies will develop and operate new game apps based on Nintendo's IP, including its iconic game characters, for smart devices. The alliance is intended to complement Nintendo's dedicated video game systems business and extend Nintendo's reach into the vast market of smart device users worldwide. Under the alliance, DeNA will also be able to strengthen its gaming business at a global scale by leveraging Nintendo's IP. To ensure the quality of game experience that consumers expect from this alliance of Nintendo and DeNA, only new original games optimized for smart device functionality will be created, rather than porting games created specifically for the Wii U home console or the Nintendo 3DS portable system.
In order to create completely new game experiences for smart devices, all Nintendo IP will be eligible for development and exploration by the alliance. As these consumers enjoy the unique kind of gameplay found only with Nintendo, they will have the opportunity to explore even more premium experiences on Nintendo's dedicated video game platforms. Information on upcoming games and availability will be forthcoming.
Nintendo and DeNA also plan to develop an online membership service that is accessible from smart devices, PC and Nintendo systems, such as the Nintendo 3DS portable system and the Wii U home console. The membership service, which is targeted to launch in the fall of 2015, will be built on DeNA's extensive experience and capabilities in online membership services.
As part of the long-term relationship and commitment by each company, Nintendo and DeNA have also agreed to form a capital alliance. Under the capital alliance, Nintendo will acquire 15,081,000 of DeNA's treasury shares, which corresponds to 10.00 percent of its total outstanding stock, for a total of approximately 22 billion yen. DeNA will simultaneously acquire 1,759,400 of Nintendo's treasury shares, which corresponds to 1.24 percent of its outstanding stock, for a total of approximately 22 billion yen. The payment is due April 2, 2015.
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As for which Nintendo IP will be used, we do not intend to make any exceptions. Potentially, any Nintendo IP could be used in our smart device software. On the other hand, as I just said, games on smart devices require ever-evolving services rather than just being a finished product. A combined effort will be necessary to operate them. People’s attention would only be dispersed if we simply increased the number of the titles we simultaneously released, and we could not expect to expand our business. Accordingly, we will narrow down the titles for development and operation to some extent.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:54 pm to genro
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Are you fricking reading anything?
Calm down brah.
First off, your Nintendo phone idea would be great except that isn't what they said they were doing so there is no point in even speculating that would happen.
Second, if you make mobile games and want to penetrate the market in any significant way you MUST make them for touchscreen devices b/c those currently dominate.
People aren't going to buy a controller for their tablet or phone. Its already been proven to be an extremely niche market for that.
So yea, most Nintendo games for mobile would suck. The only way for it to work would be either to dumb them down or make horseshite like Candy Crush, endless runner games, and other garbage that does little more than milk you for money to advance. (which is a big fat who the frick cares?)
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:01 pm to Dr RC
I find it entertaining to speculate optimistically when we don't know exactly what it will be.
If it's half-arse Mario Fruit Ninja on iPhones, no shite it will suck.
I expect more from Nintendo. Look at their history - the NES, the GB, the 64, and even the Wii. They don't try to fit into the market like some scrappy upstart. They completely change the market with brilliance and creativity and everyone else follows suit.
If it's half-arse Mario Fruit Ninja on iPhones, no shite it will suck.
I expect more from Nintendo. Look at their history - the NES, the GB, the 64, and even the Wii. They don't try to fit into the market like some scrappy upstart. They completely change the market with brilliance and creativity and everyone else follows suit.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:18 pm to Mystery
People buy Xbox 1 and PS4 because of the multiplats. They make the big bucks because of the summer blockbuster releases much like the movie business goes. The only real place you can give XB1 or PS any credit in the gaming industry is marketing and willingness to distribute games that put so much stress on a graphics engine and processor.
Both of those consoles are put more stock into outside features rather than strictly gaming. However, Nintendo is just about a 95% gaming company. Just about their entire focus is solely on gaming and innovation in that respective area.
I am a Nintendo fan boy at heart yes. But it's not to say I'm not realistic. I pose this question to you Playstation and Xbox customers. Say you couldn't purchase huge multiplats like COD, AC, Arkham, and the Battlefield games etc. just as a hypothetical situation.
I'm sure Microsoft and Sony are capable of developing solid IP themselves but....where does that leave those two consoles if 3rd party support tanked like with the Wii U?
Playstation in all fairness would deal pretty well considering they do have a share of a lot of old companies they can now consider 2nd party affiliates. Xbox has only ONE FP worth mentioning at all and that's Halo. However, I would say their independent support is superb and the library they have is amazing as far as that goes. If 3rd party support for Xbox tanked, the Indie scene and 2 FP titles aren't gonna save them.
My point is, Nintendo's saving grace is the fact that nearly everyone of their best games is solely owned by them and no one else. If their company is put in jeopardy by quality of game or terrible reception, they have only themselves to blame.
Expanding their IP to other outlets such as tablets can only increase interest to investors and ultimately raise their stock. But like I said, all the previous things I just said are hypothetical. It's just something to think about to the people who consistently rag on the Wii U having no games to play or the like. People also forget that the Wii U is the only system of today that is backwards compatible with the previous generations titles.
All that said, I can't wait for the new Mortal Kombat game and other titles that will soon be released on Steam.
Both of those consoles are put more stock into outside features rather than strictly gaming. However, Nintendo is just about a 95% gaming company. Just about their entire focus is solely on gaming and innovation in that respective area.
I am a Nintendo fan boy at heart yes. But it's not to say I'm not realistic. I pose this question to you Playstation and Xbox customers. Say you couldn't purchase huge multiplats like COD, AC, Arkham, and the Battlefield games etc. just as a hypothetical situation.
I'm sure Microsoft and Sony are capable of developing solid IP themselves but....where does that leave those two consoles if 3rd party support tanked like with the Wii U?
Playstation in all fairness would deal pretty well considering they do have a share of a lot of old companies they can now consider 2nd party affiliates. Xbox has only ONE FP worth mentioning at all and that's Halo. However, I would say their independent support is superb and the library they have is amazing as far as that goes. If 3rd party support for Xbox tanked, the Indie scene and 2 FP titles aren't gonna save them.
My point is, Nintendo's saving grace is the fact that nearly everyone of their best games is solely owned by them and no one else. If their company is put in jeopardy by quality of game or terrible reception, they have only themselves to blame.
Expanding their IP to other outlets such as tablets can only increase interest to investors and ultimately raise their stock. But like I said, all the previous things I just said are hypothetical. It's just something to think about to the people who consistently rag on the Wii U having no games to play or the like. People also forget that the Wii U is the only system of today that is backwards compatible with the previous generations titles.
All that said, I can't wait for the new Mortal Kombat game and other titles that will soon be released on Steam.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:31 pm to genro
I just have a hard time being optimistic b/c other than puzzle games and adventure games pretty much everything I've played on mobile that strives to be console-esque would be a hell of a lot better on a dedicated gaming system that has a controller.
I also have little faith in companies doing anything more than looking for eh quick buck on mobile regardless of who they are b/c that is basically what every single company has done to this point.
I would LOVE to be proven wrong but I just dont see Nintendo making full on Nintendo games at the expense of their own dedicated systems.
I also have little faith in companies doing anything more than looking for eh quick buck on mobile regardless of who they are b/c that is basically what every single company has done to this point.
I would LOVE to be proven wrong but I just dont see Nintendo making full on Nintendo games at the expense of their own dedicated systems.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:36 pm to Dr RC
Well thats the thing. They haven't been releasing classic titles like they were last generation. Wii has way more Virtual Console titles than Wii U. While there have been HD remakes on the 3DS, there has not been a shitload of S/NES ports like there were for GBA. A lot is unavailable on their dedicated consoles, like they're saving it for something.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:43 pm to genro
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They haven't been releasing classic titles like they were last generation. Wii has way more Virtual Console titles than Wii U.
The coding is a little different which is why they charge you a a couple bucks to upgrade some of those Wii VC titles to WiiU.
You can still use any purchased Wii VC game if you do the system transfer. You just have to play it in Wii mode.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:49 pm to Dr RC
You mean if you DON'T do the system transfer? And I didn't know they charged you for that. Who's gonna pay just to avoid an extra menu for 2 seconds?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:53 pm to FourThreeForty
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The only real place you can give XB1 or PS any credit in the gaming industry is marketing and willingness to distribute games that put so much stress on a graphics engine and processor.
Well, I also think that X1 and PS4 have given indie developers the biggest avenues to showcase innovative games and be able to produce things that would have been too risky in the past. Especially with all the incentives and development assistance these studios receive (at some benefit to the publisher of course), you see thinks like Ori and the Blind Forest, Resogun, Transistor, etc.
A lot of these games would launch solely on Steam, but Steam alone doesn't have the assistance available that you see on X1/PS4.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:55 pm to genro
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You mean if you DON'T do the system transfer?
no, if you do the system transfer you can play your WiiVC games on your WiiU. You just have to do it in Wii mode.
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And I didn't know they charged you for that. Who's gonna pay just to avoid an extra menu for 2 seconds?
Its more than that. You get a better save state system, off tv play on the gamepad, customizable controls, no longer have to use the wii mote to play, and HD video on the TV (which is debatable as an "upgrade")
I think its like $1.50 to upgrade Wii VC games. The only negative is they have to be currently offered in the WiiU eshop to be eligible for the upgrade.
Otherwise you have to continue to play them in Wii mode on your WiiU.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:58 pm to Dr RC
quote:You can do this on Wii mode?!?
Its more than that. You get a better save state system, off tv play on the gamepad, customizable controls, no longer have to use the wii mote to play, and HD video on the TV
Eta: see next post
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:01 pm to Dr RC
quote:Ok this is what I was talking about. A lot of the actual titles are not available on Wii U eshop. So you can't do that.
The only negative is they have to be currently offered in the WiiU eshop to be eligible for the upgrade.
I was so confused for a sec.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:01 pm to FourThreeForty
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All that said, I can't wait for the new Mortal Kombat game and other titles that will soon be released on Steam.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:04 pm to FourThreeForty
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I pose this question to you Playstation and Xbox customers. Say you couldn't purchase huge multiplats like COD, AC, Arkham, and the Battlefield games etc. just as a hypothetical situation.
I'm sure Microsoft and Sony are capable of developing solid IP themselves but....where does that leave those two consoles if 3rd party support tanked like with the Wii U?
It leaves them in a bad situation, like the Wii U. No one disputes the quality of Nintendo's own games.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:59 pm to BaddestAndvari
quote:I actually went to Target intending to buy a PS4. Looked around for like 30 minutes and got a Wii U instead. True story. I'm very glad I changed my mind
nothing, which has never happened before this generation. The WiiU on the other hand got me, because their outlook of games hooked me.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:40 pm to jefforize
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:29 pm to hg
From a business point of sense I don't see why not. Since no one makes money on the consoles anyway, they need to find more avenues for their games. They can't give the games to Sony/MS, so short of actually giving the consoles away this is the best bet.
Nintendo have always been forward in terms of design influencing gameplay, but backwards regarding the medium they use. Even now, if I buy a game on the amazon app store, I can install it on all my devices, play it on tv or phone (with the right equipment). With nintendo, one game is always one game, and I have to rebuy the fricking game when they make a new console every 5 years. That needs to end, then I'll rebuy the back catalogue of classics once, as opposed to never.
Not all games will work on straight touchscreen phones, but some will, pokemon, for example, could actually be massively enhanced. Phones, meanwhile, could be extra controllers for consoles (Nintendo already use this concept I guess).
Nintendo have always been forward in terms of design influencing gameplay, but backwards regarding the medium they use. Even now, if I buy a game on the amazon app store, I can install it on all my devices, play it on tv or phone (with the right equipment). With nintendo, one game is always one game, and I have to rebuy the fricking game when they make a new console every 5 years. That needs to end, then I'll rebuy the back catalogue of classics once, as opposed to never.
Not all games will work on straight touchscreen phones, but some will, pokemon, for example, could actually be massively enhanced. Phones, meanwhile, could be extra controllers for consoles (Nintendo already use this concept I guess).
Posted on 3/18/15 at 9:26 am to Mephistopheles
A system where the controller is a handheld that plugs into a base at home that makes it a console seems to be what all the analyst think the NX is.
I hope its something like this that combines both systems and leaves Nintendo with only one piece of hardware to concentrate on.
All of their talent behind one system would be incredible.
I hope its something like this that combines both systems and leaves Nintendo with only one piece of hardware to concentrate on.
All of their talent behind one system would be incredible.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/18/15 at 2:04 pm to CBandits82
welp, turns out that the company Nintendo has saddled up with is one of the ones that specializes in free to play micro transaction bullshite.
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