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re: NCAA 13 Gameplay Updates (More info/impressions on pg 5)

Posted on 4/19/12 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by FleurDeLonestar
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Posted on 4/19/12 at 3:59 pm to
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also like to say 2k is not that great of a game

NFL 2k?

Had some great features. . .but I can't say it is worse than Madden. Nothing right now is worse than Madden.


Posted by arobbi3
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:13 pm to
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Pitch relationship is much improved, cleaner, you must get it out early which is nice

If the receiver doesn't see it he won't make the play—Same for the defense on ball play. DB/WR interaction is great, very realistic, doesn’t stick like glue and run step for step with the receiver

Defensive backs do a much better job competing the jump balls, the interaction midair is great

OLine/DLine interaction is tuned (not overhauled). The offensive linemen extend and grab, slide accordingly as well with the defender. Great playaction play is back for ’13!

Defensive backs with good awareness trail receivers well and when they see the ball coming can make excellent plays on midair balls without warping thru the WR. Also when making a play or interception for example the DB catches stretched out and rolls across the turf like in real life.

Guys that leave players on one on one coverage and islands will be venerable because physic DB’s are gone and cannot just run hip to hip like before in coverage. The WR’s get much better separation especially the better the route runner he is.

Unlike in ’12, speed in ’13 doesn't necessarily mean you will get by a secondary on a deep ball. While players will still get their fair share of “big” down-field plays in traffic and nice catches with good coverage it definitely is not as common this year. As mentioned previously, defensive backs that do a good job looking back and getting a “beat” on the route will do a great job running with receivers and making a play to swat them down or even snag an interception. Passers will have to make sure a receiver has a good step or break on a DB or they could be potentially in trouble often. Passers will need to find mismatches as well to help them push the ball down the field.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:37 pm to
Looks good. We'll see if promises translate.

I am pessimistic, by experience, but am open.
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Defensive backs do a much better job competing the jump balls, the interaction midair is great
This isn't a problem. The problem has been that WR's never fight for the ball.

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Guys that leave players on one on one coverage and islands will be venerable because physic DB’s are gone and cannot just run hip to hip like before in coverage. The WR’s get much better separation especially the better the route runner he is.
Thank you jeebus.

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OLine/DLine interaction is tuned (not overhauled). The offensive linemen extend and grab, slide accordingly as well with the defender. Great playaction play is back for ’13!
good.

These are the most ambitious promises I can ever remember for NCAA. Looks like they are actually trying to fix problems that have plagued the series, problems that were on the verge of costing them valuable customers such as myself.

ETA: FWIW, I ain't going back in this thread. If there was a post you want me to respond to, please repost it. You guys bored me, but apparently piled on after I logged off. Please make sure that reposts are worth my time, because I realize how much many of you value my opinions and expertise.

You're welcome in advance.
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 10:40 pm
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:41 pm to
I agree, these changes sound promising, but, need to see them in person.

When one thing get fixed, another thing breaks, usually.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:45 pm to
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When one thing get fixed, another thing breaks, usually.


No shite.

Let's make pump faking more effective. . .oh, wait. . .

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need to see them in person
Sadly you won't see them until you buy the game. The demos are usually invalid predictors of game performance. But that goes for all sports games.
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 10:47 pm
Posted by arobbi3
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:47 pm to
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When one thing get fixed, another thing breaks, usually.


That's the discouraging part of it. That first always seems to cripple gameplay more than fixing it. I am very excited to hear all of the impressions though. Most of it has been extremely positive and it's nice to see how receptive the NCAA team is.

Roaad, I think the additional receiving animations have addressed the passive play, I may register on that site and ask about it to make sure.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 10:50 pm to
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Roaad, I think the additional receiving animations have addressed the passive play
I know what you are saying. But in my experience, adding animations does little to affect gameplay.

It would require animations, and logic.

Perhaps that is what they meant? I need to see it in action.
Posted by arobbi3
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 11:10 pm to
I hear ya, these new animations are also supposed to keep the ball from bouncing off their helmets as well. I haven't seen that, but they did show video clips of deep balls that receivers actually adjusted to. The new animations also fixed the issue where receivers had to stop and wait on the deep ball.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 11:12 pm to
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the issue where receivers had to stop and wait on the deep ball.
I saw that alot off the arms of J. Lee and Jefferson. . .in real life.
Posted by arobbi3
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 11:16 pm to
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I saw that alot off the arms of J. Lee and Jefferson. . .in real life.











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