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re: Four big reasons Xbox One, not PS4, will win over the masses

Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:26 pm to
Well damn, oh well you can view them later if you must.

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i've made at least 500 poor people jokes on this board this year alone.



Yes I've seen, everybody poor.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:26 pm to
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Global Sales




Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:30 pm to
With more casual gamers going towards mobile and tablet gaming, I don't think we'll ever get to that point. I think the industry has plateau'd for the US.

That said, there are a lot of small markets that have major potential like India and Brazil that could become big cash cows in the future. That's the only reason why the PS2 is still being shipped out. They sell a few 100k every year in developing markets.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 1:31 pm
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:32 pm to
I still remember leaving WalMart with a goddamn comma in the total.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:35 pm to
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I think the industry has plateau'd for the US.


It most definitely has, agree'd.

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That said, there are a lot of small markets that have major potential like India and Brazil that could become big cash cows in the future. That's the only reason why the PS2 is still being shipped out. They sell a few 100k every year in developing markets.



They did stop production on the PS2 back in January though.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:37 pm to
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I still remember leaving WalMart with a goddamn comma in the total.




I remember feeling like such a baller.

I had just graduated HS and had a summer job making bank with no bills, went into WalMart and told the lady I wanted a PS3, all the kids and few adults in electronics just looked at me.

She goes to the back, grabs one and rings me up, $690 and some change, I whip out 7 bills and pay for it.

Walk out with some serious swag as everyone stares at my PS3 box then me, sup?
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:37 pm to
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The PS3 had the better exclusives according to most,

That would depend on what your taste is as a gamer. Though the PS3 had more exclusives I'd rather have Halo 3 than all of the Resistance and Killzone games .
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including the developer of the generation Naughty Dog

Bioshock and Bioshock infinite are better than any games ND has released this gen, so I'd hardly call them the developer of the generation.
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Those same developers are still exclusive for the PS4

I guess only the PS4 has games coming down the pipe right? Its all idle speculation and useless until the studios announce something. I'm not sitting here chirping about how great Gears 4 is going to be.
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Who said anything about you? Just pointing out how the PS4 is outselling the XB1 handily at the biggest retailer despite the "weaker" launch lineup. I guess people understand the better developers are on PS and are willing to wait as a console is going to last 5-8 years not 1 year.

Or maybe it's just $100 cheaper. What a retarded argument.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:42 pm to
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That would depend on what your taste is as a gamer. Though the PS3 had more exclusives I'd rather have Halo 3 than all of the Resistance and Killzone games .



That's why I said for the most part, Halo 3 was almost as bad as Halo 4.

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Bioshock and Bioshock infinite are better than any games ND has released this gen, so I'd hardly call them the developer of the generation.



I'm not even going to dignify such retardedness with a reply.

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Or maybe it's just $100 cheaper. What a retarded argument.



Or maybe it's just the better console for most, so they're buying it more. What a retarded post.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:44 pm to
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The idea is that you are buying it for the games it has now and the games it will have in the future.

Both consoles have games in development for 2-3 years down the road, so why should that impact my purchase at all? If I am spending money on a console there needs to be a game library available to justify the purchase. I already made that mistake with the vita.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:45 pm to
PS4>Xbox one
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:47 pm to
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Both consoles have games in development for 2-3 years down the road, so why should that impact my purchase at all? If I am spending money on a console there needs to be a game library available to justify the purchase. I already made that mistake with the vita.



It depends on your mindset and how much value you get out of your purchase when it is made. Let's say there's a dry spell for PS4/Xbone and there's no new games I want for 6 months after that launch window. I was able to find 3-4 games that I really wanted to play, and I know that there's games coming that I'm very interested in. I wouldn't call that purchase a waste or misused.

I know not everyone has that mindset though.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:48 pm to
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It depends on your mindset and how much value you get out of your purchase when it is made. Let's say there's a dry spell for PS4/Xbone and there's no new games I want for 6 months after that launch window.


That's where I think Playstation having a stranglehold on the Indie developers comes in to play.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:48 pm to
The only exclusive on XBox that is remotely interesting is that Ryse game and even then its just a GoW ripoff with a Roman history paintjob.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:49 pm to
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That's why I said for the most part, Halo 3 was almost as bad as Halo 4.


you've made this biased opinion argument multiple times and it's been followed by several pages of people calling you ignorant.

so clearly your opinion is wrong and we don't even have to bring sales numbers into it to show how wrong you are.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:51 pm to
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That's why I said for the most part, Halo 3 was almost as bad as Halo 4.

Apparently you don't know anything about halo, because nobody would put Reach or Halo 4 in the same stratosphere as Halo 3.
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I'm not even going to dignify such retardedness with a reply.

Bioshock > Last of Us on metacritc and gamerankings. It might be the greatest game of all-time. Bethesda might even have a argument with Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 3.
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Or maybe it's just the better console for most, so they're buying it more. What a retarded post.

So I guess a $100 difference in price isn't why the PS4 is "just the better console for most"?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66786 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:52 pm to
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That's where I think Playstation having a stranglehold on the Indie developers comes in to play.


nope.


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The only exclusive on XBox that is remotely interesting is that Ryse game and even then its just a GoW ripoff with a Roman history paintjob.



big nope here too. dumb dumb dumb.

Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:52 pm to
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you've made this biased opinion argument multiple times and it's been followed by several pages of people calling you ignorant.



Dead franchise is dead, has been for a long time, of course fanboi's are going to get mad when you tell them how shitty it actually is, it's the one thing they cling to like it's god.

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so clearly your opinion is wrong and we don't even have to bring sales numbers into it to show how wrong you are.



I thought sales proved nothing? I didn't want to mention The Last Of Us sales being even with Bioshock Infinite when that other guy mentioned Naughty Dog/Infinite. If sales are what you go by then holy shite, an exclusive selling on par as a multiplat? Even more props to ND.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:52 pm to
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because nobody would put Reach or Halo 4 in the same stratosphere as Halo 3.


Yeah, I liked Reach and 4 more than Halo 3.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7309 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:53 pm to
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Yeah, I liked Reach and 4 more than Halo 3.

Then you didn't play the multiplayer, because those games killed halo.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65802 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:55 pm to
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Apparently you don't know anything about halo, because nobody would put Reach or Halo 4 in the same stratosphere as Halo 3.



All 3 are bad.

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Bioshock > Last of Us on metacritc and gamerankings. It might be the greatest game of all-time. Bethesda might even have a argument with Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 3.



You're an idiot, Uncharted 2 and The Last of Us both have higher user scores than either Bioshock.

You specifically said Infinite too, TLoU and Uncharted 2 both have higher critic scores and user scores than Infinite.

TLoU outsold Infinite, AN EXCLUSIVE vs a Multiplat, and it sold more.

Just stop.
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