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re: "Final Fantasy XV isn't afraid to innovate to find greatness" & More Previews
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:54 pm to Mr Gardoki
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:54 pm to Mr Gardoki
i have my ps4 and vita with me, and a 48" TV. I'll most likely play Type-0 on the PS4 and some on vita via remote play before bed while laying down.
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:56 pm to musick
The good thing about waiting to play this game is I might get lucky and get an eventual vita release.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 1:59 pm to Mr Gardoki
I think the Vita is the perfect platform for it.
I just think square is showing the vita hardly any love at all. I enjoyed the FFX remaster on vita, but this was a huge opportunity to have a new FF title push vita system sales, along side the PS4. And considering Type-0 was already a portable game (PSP 2011) it made a ton of sense to port it to Vita. Instead they remastered it just for PS4.
And considering on the survey Square doesn't even list Vita as a system you are currently playing or own, I am discouraged.
I mean you can play every FF title on the Vita 1-10 ( 1-9 being PSOne ports) but you can't play Crisis Core because its a UMD only game? Why the HELL isn't Crisis Core in the PSN Store?
Maybe since FFX Remaster was made for PS3/Vita first and is now coming out for PS4, Type-0 still has hope to end up on the Vita if sales are good. And i think sales will be pretty damn good for Type-0 based off the only way to get the XV demo alone, much less how good of a game it is.
I just think square is showing the vita hardly any love at all. I enjoyed the FFX remaster on vita, but this was a huge opportunity to have a new FF title push vita system sales, along side the PS4. And considering Type-0 was already a portable game (PSP 2011) it made a ton of sense to port it to Vita. Instead they remastered it just for PS4.
And considering on the survey Square doesn't even list Vita as a system you are currently playing or own, I am discouraged.
I mean you can play every FF title on the Vita 1-10 ( 1-9 being PSOne ports) but you can't play Crisis Core because its a UMD only game? Why the HELL isn't Crisis Core in the PSN Store?
Maybe since FFX Remaster was made for PS3/Vita first and is now coming out for PS4, Type-0 still has hope to end up on the Vita if sales are good. And i think sales will be pretty damn good for Type-0 based off the only way to get the XV demo alone, much less how good of a game it is.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:03 pm to musick
Square has gotten in that stock holders mentality with install base. Mobile phones must be awesome because of install base right? Maybe for a quick buck but your real fans are on consoles and gaming handhelds. Vita has a poor install base but high attach rate.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:07 pm to Mr Gardoki
Yea I am worried as shite about that too.
Square has said they will basically shift to mobile-only if this FF:XV doesn't sell well. It could be the last FF game on a console if it sells shitty.
I hope people buy this game in droves.
FF XV The last hope for console gaming
Square has said they will basically shift to mobile-only if this FF:XV doesn't sell well. It could be the last FF game on a console if it sells shitty.
I hope people buy this game in droves.
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Needless to say, Square Enix and Final Fantasy fans are looking for 15 to be huge.
But it’s not just fan hopes that Final Fantasy XV has to carry. According to the game’s co-director, Hajime Tabata, Final Fantasy XV could also be the last great hope for Japan’s console market.
Speaking to Kotaku on the state of the Japanese gaming landscape, Tabata explained that the “Japanese market is shifting toward handheld or smartphone devices,” not necessarily because of the video game business as a whole but because of Japan’s culture.
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So where does Final Fantasy XV come into things? One of the most highly anticipated titles – in both Japan and across the world – the upcoming action RPG could be one of those very captivating video games that Tabata played as a young’un, helping to revitalize what he sees as a dying console market.
“It’s not to say that I don’t have any concerns at all, but I believe that it’ll really depend on how Final Fantasy XV does. Because I really want more people to enjoy games in the living room, on a big screen. If Final Fantasy XV doesn’t do well, perhaps there’s not much of a future for console games. It kind of really depends on how that goes.”
FF XV The last hope for console gaming
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:08 pm to DelU249
I'm guessing it's because they started creating the mythos for the three games way before the shitshow of XIII ever even came out.
I'm with you man. XIII has ruined the series for me going forward. What I've seen for Type-0 and XV has gotten me intrigued again, but it's the first time i've decided to wait to hear what people say about it before buying a numbered SP FF game.
I'm with you man. XIII has ruined the series for me going forward. What I've seen for Type-0 and XV has gotten me intrigued again, but it's the first time i've decided to wait to hear what people say about it before buying a numbered SP FF game.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:08 pm to musick
I remember reading that. It's interesting what happened to square, Japanese developers in general, japanese console market, and jrpg's. It's like they all took a dive together.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:12 pm to Mr Gardoki
I can see where the fast moving Japanese culture prefers mobile games instead of living room epics...but I hope this game crushes bc I need top-shelf RPGs for my console.
I tried playing FF6 and Dimensions on my Note 3, even with the graphics updated and simplified control scheme, I just can't get into a video game with a story on a mobile phone. The controls are terrible as well. Playing ff6 on my Note just made me want to break out my Ouya and load FF6 on SNES so I could play it on a TV with an actual controller.
The Western world still plays games in their living rooms.
I tried playing FF6 and Dimensions on my Note 3, even with the graphics updated and simplified control scheme, I just can't get into a video game with a story on a mobile phone. The controls are terrible as well. Playing ff6 on my Note just made me want to break out my Ouya and load FF6 on SNES so I could play it on a TV with an actual controller.
The Western world still plays games in their living rooms.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:17 pm to musick
It's a chicken and an egg thing to me. Japan doesn't play on consoles as much anymore but there also isn't as much on console for them to play so they really don't want to.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:18 pm to Mr Gardoki
What gives me hope is how well they responded to FF14. They acknowledged the frick up and then the fixed it. They did an amazing job at fixing it.
As i look at vids of FF15 something just tells me..that it will revive the franchise. Its like you just can see their desperation to make a game to fix all the mistakes and i just cant help but think they have done it and are doing it with 15. The leviathan parts shown just blow my mind and if it transfers over to the final release...my god....
As i look at vids of FF15 something just tells me..that it will revive the franchise. Its like you just can see their desperation to make a game to fix all the mistakes and i just cant help but think they have done it and are doing it with 15. The leviathan parts shown just blow my mind and if it transfers over to the final release...my god....
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:23 pm to musick
quote:maybe there isn't a big future for poorly made console games. It's as if the thought that XIII was a piece of shite never occurred to them. NOOOOO, you see it's that there's no future in console games
“It’s not to say that I don’t have any concerns at all, but I believe that it’ll really depend on how Final Fantasy XV does. Because I really want more people to enjoy games in the living room, on a big screen. If Final Fantasy XV doesn’t do well, perhaps there’s not much of a future for console games. It kind of really depends on how that goes.”
after reading this, I'm pretty confident that the series is dead
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:24 pm to Mr Gardoki
I'm having a similar issue...there aren't any games for me to play on console...arkham knight in summer, Zelda at the end of the year, uncharted later this year, but that's like 3 games...right now my ps4 catalog is pretty slim
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shadows of mordor
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:29 pm to Blitzed
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As i look at vids of FF15 something just tells me..that it will revive the franchise. Its like you just can see their desperation to make a game to fix all the mistakes and i just cant help but think they have done it and are doing it with 15.
Taking my complete FF fan boy hat off I have to agree with this too. And what they did with XIV was unprecedented in gaming history. Also them doing a survey to the fans on what they should make next makes me think they are for once listening to the fans (I wrote in Chrono sequel and VII remake, lol)
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:37 pm to musick
if they were really intent on fixing all of the mistakes, then this sequel wouldn't have jack shite to do with XIII which they already gave a corner cutting sequel (amazing considering I thought all the corners had already been cut off)
scrap everything, come up with something new. why can't they do that? retooling everything has to be time consuming and expensive as well, but I don't even think they believe XIII was that awful...this is George lucas level frustration.
Giving the people what they want is good. Knowing what people want is great. Giving people what they've told you repeatedly they don't want? frick that noise.
my thoughts have been confirmed. Series is dead.
scrap everything, come up with something new. why can't they do that? retooling everything has to be time consuming and expensive as well, but I don't even think they believe XIII was that awful...this is George lucas level frustration.
Giving the people what they want is good. Knowing what people want is great. Giving people what they've told you repeatedly they don't want? frick that noise.
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After release, director Motomu Toriyama felt that the lower-than-expected review scores for a main Final Fantasy series game came from reviewers who approached the game from a Western point of view. These reviewers were used to games in which the player was given an open world to explore, he said, noting that this expectation contrasted with the vision the team set out to create. He noted that it "becomes very difficult to tell a compelling story when you're given that much freedom"
my thoughts have been confirmed. Series is dead.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:42 pm to DelU249
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XIII which they already gave a corner cutting sequel (amazing considering I thought all the corners had already been cut off)
Actually I have to defend this. I didn't really like XIII-2 or 3, but on those sequels they listened to fan outcry and added towns, overworld maps, made the gameplay non-linear, added mini-games, shops, etc because of critcism of XIII not having all that stuff.
The stories just sucked.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:47 pm to DelU249
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my thoughts have been confirmed. Series is dead.
that was after XIII was released.
XV has opened up the world completely and is more of a "western" game than any other FF. They tried holding on to typical JPRG tropes for XIII and in todays world it just backfired.
They are righting all of the wrongs with XV, IMO.
To each his own though, I enjoy this discussion on a slow shitty day working at the hospital today. It's nice to have actual intriguing discussion somewhere on TD, esp with something like FF, where I've found that most people these days don't like the series or JPRG in general anymore. I respect your thoughts and I see where you are coming from. I am just a super-fan at heart and nothing sans a complete frick up (and no I don't think XIII was it) of the FF formula would get me away from the series.
I just hold it too dear to my childhood after growing up with FF4-9 and the memories that go with them.
Type-0 and XV look to revive the series in a new direction and I'm more excited than ever.
Anyways,
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:51 pm to musick
quote:the quickest way to sum up the problem with xiii (and no I didn't play -2 or 3 because the first one sucked so badly, but I did unfortunately play 5 hours of x-2...fool me once)
The stories just sucked.
X is pretty linear and has a convoluted story, but the towns and non linear aspects of gameplay is what helped develop the story and made sense of it all. You can't have a story without a world and the people in it
you see the desperation and devastation across spira, you interact with people along the way and learn more about the history which adds to the story and creates speculation.
xiii is just diarrhea.
and while it's true that narrowing the experience can help focus the story, that's only true for a game like the last of us or uncharted. These stories are a bit more complex
they don't even take place on earth, so we need to relate to them and we need MOAR information. Tidus is a total fish out of water so through his character we learn all of this shite about spira. He's always asking questions about everything. XII isn't really all that complex, but XIII seems to try and recreate X and fails...because by the end I still didn't know what the frick was going on /rantPosted on 3/10/15 at 2:54 pm to musick
yeah it's really a great discussion. The series is at a critical point right now.
I hope XV revives it, I really do...I'm just getting caught up again in how much I fricking hate XIII holy shite was it a disappointment.
final fantasy is kind of where the fantasy genre went after Hollywood kicked it to the curb in the 90s
I hope XV revives it, I really do...I'm just getting caught up again in how much I fricking hate XIII
holy shite was it a disappointment. final fantasy is kind of where the fantasy genre went after Hollywood kicked it to the curb in the 90s
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:54 pm to musick
Big time fanboi here as well, but even if i wasnt a fan id be like i fricking want to buy this game. Id given up a little bit after 12, but i was younger and coming of X which was my greatest gaming experience to that point i was disappointed, but i pulled out the old PS2 a couple years ago and realized that it in itself is a very good game. That then gave me hope for 13.....and i was done. 13 felt so rushed to me..i felt like i was just short changed..nothing about it immersed me.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:57 pm to DelU249
I actually thought X was pretty linear until the end when they give you the airship.
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