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ESPN E:60 - Throne of Games

Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:18 am
Posted by Paedin
Tampa, Florida
Member since Apr 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:18 am
Covers the Evil Geniuses run ti winning DoTA2 TI5 GF

Throne of Games


Not a bad little 15min clip I suppose. As a hardcore DoTA2 guy was a little lacking IMO.

That 6million $ Echo Slam though. Was insane when it happened

TI1 Dendi Dreamcoil
TI2 Chuan FTW
TI3 El Classico
TI4 who even remembers anyhow
TI5 The Echo Slam heard round the world
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:19 am
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3968 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:00 am to
pretty cool watch.

I ve only ever watched competitive Halo and wish it could get as big as that.

Never played dota so don't know whats going on at all.

What is the big deal about the echo slam?
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7629 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:00 am to
if you don;t understand dota, don't bother reading it wont make sense. In fact, don't read it at all it's jsut gona be me whining for 3 minutes.

Im getting so frustrated with solo que. The level of blatant stupidity is unreal, and what's worse is i expect it to change from game to game. it never does.

For instance, last game on All pick, first picking Ursa, I had to buy and upgrade courier and buy every ward. I was in so many outnumbered fights it was unreal, most under tower and no one would even TP. team just didn't give a shite about anything but farming for themselves.

i finish 12/12/5, got 4 of their 6 towers and 4 of their 6 barracks by myself, three Roshan in a 32 min game and i had to auto attack the cheese because they wouldn't even walk their dumbasses down to pick it up. I was 5 levels higher than my entire team at the end. all for a whopping 11 MMR.

And somehow I'm supposed to be able to grind up from 1K?? I've got like 300 games played ever, and I reallydon't understand how people who have been playing for years can be so dumb and bad when it comes to teamwork and mechanics.

I want to start looking for a team to play with but not until i have like 1000 games in. i learn new techniques all the time so i should be pretty badass by then. Im playing a lot of easy heroes now like ursa, Wind ranger, Crystal maiden, Razor, Tiny, Sven. just to try and get easy carries and get up to 1500 range. Its just such an uphill battle ive gone from playing 3 games minimum per day to maybe 3 at most. This would probably be all i ever did if the community wasn't so full of individuals.
Posted by Paedin
Tampa, Florida
Member since Apr 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:10 pm to
The Echo Slam - Its a ability that basically he slams the ground and the echo waves do damage based on how many heroes/creeps are in the area. So he got all 5 of the other team with 1 spell ability. Then used he other abilities. They basically all got killed in about 5 seconds becuase of 1 great play.


-Gusoline- DoTA has a huge curve, if youre playing less than 2.5k MMR, youre going to be playing with shite players. Thats just the way it is really.

If you want to climb your way out the trenches, pick one or 2 heros and just play them only til you get back up to the 2k MMR area.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7629 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

If you want to climb your way out the trenches, pick one or 2 heros and just play them only til you get back up to the 2k MMR area.


Yea i pretty much carry with Ursa every game but even if I get 30 kills teams still find a way to lose by being dumb. Then there's other times i get so pissed off i just go AFK jungle and give up. I despise when I get aegis and push a lane and nobody comes to help me push even after I ask and ping. After about 4 of those I'm just like OK you must want to lose, imma go jungle.

it's a combination of frustration from getting no help and wasting time. mostly all of these games can be won in 25-30 min and yet they always go to 45+ because no one is ever together, and everyone thinks you have to take EVERY tower.

See people split pushing in a 5 v 3 game. im just like WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING PUSH MID AND END 18 MINUTES FREE WIN. 25 minutes later they finally finish their split push and they all talk shite in chat " EZ" and we all get fricking 12-20 MMR. Im supposed to win like 100 of those to get to 2.5K? LOL.


ETA:: comm blocked again. im gona try a new strategy of, mute the whole team at the start and get in the habbit of not yelling at dumb plays.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 6:35 pm
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12007 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

And somehow I'm supposed to be able to grind up from 1K??


Yeah. If you're 1K you're not doing something (a lot of things) right. And there is absolutely no such thing as MMR hell either, it's been proved countless times. You can own and get 30 kills by yourself at low MMR and think you're a god. We've all been through it. The truth is if you're not like 5.5k MMR or higher, you have a ton of things in your gameplay that need correcting. No matter what your MMR is, you never play a perfect game either.

quote:

I've got like 300 games played ever


This is the problem. I'm thousands of games in and still learn things on a regular basis.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7629 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:04 pm to
well i got placed here because i started when i was a noob, and i do learn new things all the time but come on. this game my team is

2/6
0/4
1/8
3/8

And im 5/5. its only 15 minutes into the game...... And theyre all just trash talking each other in chat blaming one another and calling each other bad. This is EVERY game for me.


How can i be so new and rarely do this poorly? even when i do all random i dont go this negative. i'm not saying im good, not at all, that's why i dont want to play group until i have about 1K games. im saying its NOT hard to stay alive, yet people just refuse to use common sense.

I feel like im on a bowling league, but every game i get a new team. but yet every new team thinks you're supposed to throw the fricking ball behind you and slide down the lane with your body.

At this point I'm out of ideas on how to get ahead. I may switch to captains mode for a few days.


ETA:: captains mode was a terrible idea. toxic raging in the lobby and arguing over whos gona mid before the third pick even goes through. FML man.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 7:13 pm
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12007 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:39 pm to
You say you play Ursa jungle. That's probably not good in low MMR. Ursa really contributes nothing to your team early on, and if your team has the scores that you just posted, then that means they are getting completely fricked in lane. If I was at 1.5K and playing Ursa, I would carry a TP at all times and have my finger on the trigger ready to help even though it's not what he's most efficient at. Typically when I play a hero in the jungle, I do a skill build that is better for helping in team fights, not the one that's most efficient for jungling.

Example: Legion Commander. I max Overwhelming Odds first even though it's the worst jungle build. Personally I hate being ineffective in team fights at any point in the game. Ursa may be a little more strict because his biggest contribution is solo Roshan.

I can think of several heroes who are probably more impactful at that MMR though:

Riki
Huskar
Lina
Windranger
Spiritbreaker
Bloodseeker

Supporting is vastly underrated too. Supports have this reputation of being ward bitches, but they can rape the game.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Paedin
Tampa, Florida
Member since Apr 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 7:53 pm to
If you want to just cheese your way up to 3kish, youtube a Slasher's Way video, pick a hero you like and follow.

Its pretty much a winning scenario. As long as you win more than you loose youll eventually work your way up.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7629 posts
Posted on 10/29/15 at 5:52 pm to
5 wins in a row and then i run into this shite man.



And that's NOT even that different form the 5 wins either. It's literally every frikkin game. All any of these assholes do is cry in chat for 50 min about how the other person cant play and everyone's bad but them and none of their deaths are their fault.

two of the guys on my team their profile said they had over 1000 wins. How the frick do you play, much less win 1000 games and not know not to go on Wraith king unless you know you can kill twice? Un-real.


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