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re: Sous vide backstrap.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:18 am to Salmon
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:18 am to Salmon
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Didn't see that coming. Please make the argument that it's been mainstream for years and is here to stay in the mainstream. Please.
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You have yet to explain how it is more complicated
Extra equipment, setting up the container for the bath. Having to vacuum seal the meat. Do you need more or can I stop already?
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:22 am to LNCHBOX
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lease make the argument that it's been mainstream for years and is here to stay in the mainstream. Please.
It is obviously not mainstream, but I think with more understanding and knowledge of the technique, and how easy it is, it will become more "mainstream"
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Extra equipment, setting up the container for the bath
extra equipment doesn't necessarily make things more complicated
setting up the container for the bath?
pouring water into a pot is complicated? quote:
Having to vacuum seal the meat.
you don't have to do this
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Do you need more or can I stop already?
Please continue
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:25 am to Salmon
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It is obviously not mainstream
Like I said, it's a fad.
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extra equipment doesn't necessarily make things more complicated setting up the container for the bath? pouring water into a pot is complicated?
The space to store said extra equipment, storing your bath container when not using it. Not everyone has giant kitchens.
Bottom line is OP wasted a good piece of meat to cook it the fad way.
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Please continue
Takes too long for marginally better results. The actually cookers are fairly expensive. It's juts not worth the hassle IMO, which is why it will never be mainstream.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:28 am to LNCHBOX
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Like I said, it's a fad.
anything that is not "mainstream" yet is a fad? that is your definition?
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The space to store said extra equipment
its the size of a knife
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storing your bath container when not using it
I assume everyone owns a stock pot, no?
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Takes too long for marginally better results.
subjective
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The actually cookers are fairly expensive. It's juts not worth the hassle IMO, which is why it will never be mainstream.
the price will come down with added competition and improved technology, just like with everything
It is just a tool that is no more complicated than a crock pot or pressure cooker and takes up 1/8 of the space
the only legit criticism you have listed is time and cost, but for some it is worth it
if it isn't worth it to you, don't use it
no idea why people get so rustled over sous vide on this board
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:31 am to Salmon
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anything that is not "mainstream" yet is a fad? that is your definition?
No, but sous vide cooking could have a Crème Fraiche episode of South Park made about it.
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its the size of a knife
And it's the only thing needed to actually cook something? Didn't think so.
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I assume everyone owns a stock pot, no?
Not the best assumption, no.
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It is just a tool that is no more complicated than a crock pot or pressure cooker and takes up 1/8 of the space
You're being disingenuous now. The entire setup to actually cook something takes up more than 1/8 the space of a crock pot.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:34 am to LNCHBOX
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And it's the only thing needed to actually cook something? Didn't think so.
...I don't understand. It fits in a drawer. It doesn't take up that much space. You are reaching.
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Not the best assumption, no.
then they probably don't care about sous vide or cooking in general
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The entire setup to actually cook something takes up more than 1/8 the space of a crock pot.
I am working under the assumption that anyone that actually cares about cooking owns a stock pot and I consider that a fair assumption
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:36 am to Salmon
Whatever, have fun sous viding things. It's still a fad and unnecessarily complicates the cooking process, which you yourself admitted. Not really sure what you're trying to argue now
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:37 am to LNCHBOX
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It's still a fad and unnecessarily complicates the cooking process, which you yourself admitted
I never admitted such
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:37 am to Salmon
quote:vs.
Salmon
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LNCHBOX
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:39 am to Salmon
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I never admitted such
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the only legit criticism you have listed is time and cost, but for some it is worth it
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:40 am to LNCHBOX
I don't consider passive time and cost as a "complication"
I said those were the only legit criticisms
I said those were the only legit criticisms
Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:30 am to Salmon
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I don't consider passive time and cost as a "complication"
Of course you don't. Taking 8 hours to do something you can do in 15 minutes is definitely not any more complicated. Using two different cooking set ups when one does basically the same job is not any more complicated.
The jobs I manage would cost a whole lot more if I had the same view.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:38 am to LNCHBOX
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Taking 8 hours to do something you can do in 15 minutes is definitely not any more complicated.
if it is passive time, I don't understand how it is more complicated
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Using two different cooking set ups when one does basically the same job is not any more complicated.
explain...2 different cooking set ups?
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The jobs I manage would cost a whole lot more if I had the same view.
in many ways, sous vide is more efficient than traditional cooking methods
Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:53 am to Salmon
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if it is passive time, I don't understand how it is more complicated
Because you have to deal with it many hours before eating it. Here are two scenarios to have a meal ready for 6PM, you tell me which is less complicated:
1) Start prepping at 5PM, meal ready for 6PM, one set of cooking stuff to clean.
2) Start prepping at 10AM, come back at 5PM, finish cooking meal with other method, now you have two sets of cooking apparatuses to clean.
One is very oblivious more complicated, and I'm guessing you know which.
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explain...2 different cooking set ups?
You said you sous vide then throw in the oven. That's two different methods when one would have easily sufficed.
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in many ways, sous vide is more efficient than traditional cooking methods
Except it's not.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:06 pm to LNCHBOX
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1) Start prepping at 5PM, meal ready for 6PM, one set of cooking stuff to clean.
2) Start prepping at 10AM, come back at 5PM, finish cooking meal with other method, now you have two sets of cooking apparatuses to clean.
how active is the 5pm method? how many steps?
and I don't know about you, but I don't clean pots that just have water in them
time has zero to do with how complicated something is
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You said you sous vide then throw in the oven. That's two different methods when one would have easily sufficed.
umm...no I didn't
I said I use sous vide then sear
when I use traditional methods, I sear then use the oven
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Except it's not.
except it is, especially when cooking for a group
you don't seem very knowledgeable on sous vide, yet you feel the need to argue about this
I don't get it
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:08 pm to Salmon
Dude, let it go. You like doing sous vide. Congrats.
But it is a fad, it is more complicated, and requires more effort. It's not really debatable.
But it is a fad, it is more complicated, and requires more effort. It's not really debatable.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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But it is a fad, it is more complicated, and requires more effort. It's not really debatable.
you have yet to prove any of your points but keep saying its not debatable I thought you were better at this
This is just pure ignorance on your part
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:12 pm to Salmon
There's nothing to prove.
The next time you criticize my posting style, I'm linking you straight to this thread.
The next time you criticize my posting style, I'm linking you straight to this thread.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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There's nothing to prove.
Nice.
So you just can make claims with no basis and call them facts now?
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The next time you criticize my posting style, I'm linking you straight to this thread.
Well this thread is an exact reason why people say you just like to argue, as you clearly have no real knowledge of sous vide based on several of your comments, but you continue to argue with me like your complete ignorant statements are facts.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:17 pm to Salmon
I've shown it, you refuse to accept it. That's on you. The only person carrying on his argument is you.
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