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Do you really need to store wine on its side?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:46 pm
Came across the article from last year:
Storing wine on its side is nonsense, says scientist
Is Miguel a bad scientist or do you think his opinion is legit?
Storing wine on its side is nonsense, says scientist
quote:
Storing wine on its side won’t prevent corks drying out, and may even accelerate their degeneration, according to Amorim’s director of R&D, Dr. Miguel Cabral.
During a discussion in Portugal last week, Cabral said that the headspace of a sealed bottle of wine was so moist that there was no need to place bottles on their side to keep the cork damp.
“The cork will never dry out with almost 100% humidity in the headspace, so it is a myth that you need to store a bottle on its side,” he said.
Is Miguel a bad scientist or do you think his opinion is legit?
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:47 pm to Chicken
My collection of vintage Boone’s Farms, circa 1991, has stood the test of time while being stored in the trunk of my ‘89 MX6.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:50 pm to Chicken
Short answer is yes if you are planning on storing* wine for a few years or more. Wine keeps the cork wet and seal intact. Important.
Your Twist tops can be stored upright.
Your Twist tops can be stored upright.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:51 pm to Chicken
If my box wine is a perfect square, what side should I store it on?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:53 pm to Chicken
This is like when the one scientist who says vaccines are bad.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:54 pm to FinleyStreet
Corks will not dry out. Bottle is full of liquid. Has a small amount of headspace. Humidity in that headspace is 100%. Pretty common sense really.
However, all the wineries do it . So there must be a reason.
However, all the wineries do it . So there must be a reason.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:58 pm to Chicken
Depends on which article you read when googling as they are probably evenly split. I have some on its side because that is the way the rack holds them. I have some in cardboard cases upright because the racks are full.
While I have some good wines none that I have will ever sit long enough for a cork to dry out and more wines are using synthetic corks or screw tops than ever as well. Wines being made now, for the most part of which we drink are made to drink in a relatively short period of time.
While I have some good wines none that I have will ever sit long enough for a cork to dry out and more wines are using synthetic corks or screw tops than ever as well. Wines being made now, for the most part of which we drink are made to drink in a relatively short period of time.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 7:59 pm to BugAC
If you store it right side up, the cork will shrink in size which means air can seep in and cause oxidation.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:02 pm to FinleyStreet
quote:
If you store it right side up, the cork will shrink in size which means air can seep in and cause oxidation.
How does it shrink?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:03 pm to Chicken
I thought it had more to do with distribution of the oxygen and keep the inside part of the cork wet so the cork does not dry out and allow oxygen into the bottle if it shrinks.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:13 pm to t00f
I buy wine by the case all the time and it is shipped to me upright after it was pulled from a warehouse or cellar sitting in a cardboard box upright. I don’t worry about corks drying out. I just try to keep them out of light and climate controlled. Heat and light do more damage in my opinion. I have dark closets full and haven’t had a dry cork that I can remember.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:19 pm to Chicken
Most wineries are using rubber corks now. The wine rack industry has taken a direct hit from it unfortunately now that people are storing them upright.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:40 pm to Martini
Aren’t we talking about long term,like 1-5 or longer years. I think setting a bottle on the counter for months is not an issue.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:56 pm to t00f
Most of what I have and what most people are buying is made to drink within the next say 5-10 years or so which shouldn’t be a problem for a cork if in fact it is a problem. I do have a few late 50’s ports that were given to me as presents and they are kind of ragged and I keep them on their side. But that honest;y would be the only ones I think about.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:08 pm to Chicken
1000 years of winemaking vs 1 Portuguese “Dr.”. You tell me which one you would listen to
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:42 am to CoachChappy
For about 900 of those years we didn’t even have refrigeration. I imagine other things have changed too.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 6:29 am to Tigertown in ATL
quote:
For about 900 of those years we didn’t even have refrigeration.
They had caves, basements and other cool places to store wine during those 900 years. Pretty sure they still do.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 6:32 am to Tridentds
quote:
Your Twist tops can be stored upright.
What’s wrong with twist tops?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 6:37 am to List Eater
quote:
Most wineries are using rubber corks now.
Most?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 6:42 am to Panny Crickets
I get it. I’m pointing out refrigeration as one of millions of things that have changed in the last 100 years.
Maybe a better example would be screw tops.
There were lots of things 1000 years ago that made sense then but might not now.
Heck I’m not even saying I’m right. But I’m also not buying the “it’s always been done this way” argument.
In the end I don’t care because 1/3 of my wine will have screw tops, 1/3 will be manmade cork and 1/3 cork. And all of it will be consumed before it could dry out.
Maybe a better example would be screw tops.
There were lots of things 1000 years ago that made sense then but might not now.
Heck I’m not even saying I’m right. But I’m also not buying the “it’s always been done this way” argument.
In the end I don’t care because 1/3 of my wine will have screw tops, 1/3 will be manmade cork and 1/3 cork. And all of it will be consumed before it could dry out.
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