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PPR: Lacy, Cooks, Rueben Randle for OBJ and Jeremy Hill? UPDATE: Counter offer

Posted on 9/8/15 at 9:55 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35313 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 9:55 am
I'm the once with Lacy, Cooks and Randle.

I have:
Luck
Lacy
Rashad Jennings
Cooks
Andre Johnson
Travis Kelce
Rueben Randle
Julian Edelman
Josh Brown
Tre Mason
Alfred Blue
Coby Fleener
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 9:28 am
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:14 am to
Throwing out Randle, Lacy vs Hill and OBJ vs Cooks are fairly even. It's more of a preference. I like Lacy over Hill in PPR (just barely) and OBJ over Cooks.

This one comes down to who you like more. It's an even trade.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13858 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:16 am to
In my opinion,

Hill = Lacy

OBJ > Cooks

Randle = nothing

So I wouldn't entertain your offer, but it's not terrible. Could get someone to bite.
This post was edited on 9/8/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by TigerSaints318
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2009
1797 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 11:14 am to
Keep Lacy and Cooks. Lacy is the most sure thing in the group.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278341 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 11:21 am to
Hill> lacy
odb>cooks


randle- worhtless
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
9770 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Hill>Lacy

Not so fast my friend
Posted by AmOutlawBR
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
1153 posts
Posted on 9/8/15 at 1:04 pm to
Lacy > Hill

Cooks < OBJ
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35313 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:29 am to
So the guy I'm trading with has countered.


OBJ
Hill
J. Landry

for my

Lacy
Cooks
Edelman

I think Landry is going to be a beast this year, but Edelman is the number 1 WR for Tom Brady so I'm still not all in, yet.

ETA: Our league is a full point per reception
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:50 am to
I'd sit tight. Lacy has more PPR upside than Hill, by a good bit.

Edelman is a PPR machine
Posted by Ranger198
Member since Oct 2012
792 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:59 am to
I would sit tight, I like Lacy more than Hill.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:04 am to
quote:

I'd sit tight. Lacy has more PPR upside than Hill, by a good bit.




The test determined this is a lie
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11588 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:10 am to
He would win that trade.

I would not do it.

If anything happens to Gronk(been known to happen) Edelman who already should start week in and week out as a star flex would get targeted even more and should then be bumped to a borderline tier 1 WR due to volume and PPR scoring.

Neither OBJ or Hill IMO carry the value to warrant that trade. Lacy and Cooks both will produce similar numbers.

I actually am one of the few who like Cooks over OBJ this season. OBJ has some talented receivers to compete with for touches and many teams are keying in on him...Cooks has no one to compete with and will be featured into every game plan.

Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Lacy has more PPR upside than Hill, by a good bit.
I don't see it.

Lacy's stats last year:
246 carries, 1139 yds, 9 TD
55 tgts, 42 rec, 427 yds, 4 TD

Hill's stats:
222 carries, 1124 yds, 9 TD
32 tgts, 27 rec, 215 yds, 0 TD

Gio's stats:
168 carries, 680 yds, 5 TD
59 tgts, 43 rec, 349 yds, 2 TD

So with hill splitting time with gio, Lacy got 23 more targets than hill and 24 more carries. I don't see gio getting nearly the amount of snaps on offense that he got last year, so I'm expecting hill's touches to increase by a good bit; likely more than Lacy. Hill's got the tools and the bengals finally started to realize it in the second half of last season.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6929 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:47 am to
I don't get the love affair for Lacy.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:21 am to
I'm a hill owner in two leagues, I'm hoping for the best, I just can't see his numbers matching Lacys in the passing game. They're still going to throw the ball to Bernard, and Lacy is likely to see an increase in targets and carries with Nelson out for the year.

There's a reason that Lacy goes before Hill in 99% of the drafts. Let put the alma maters aside here and be logical
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:24 am to
You don't get the love affair for the #6 back in standard scoring a year ago in a potent offense?

Oh that's right. Bama and stuff
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 11:25 am
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I'm a hill owner in two leagues, I'm hoping for the best, I just can't see his numbers matching Lacys in the passing game. They're still going to throw the ball to Bernard, and Lacy is likely to see an increase in targets and carries with Nelson out for the year.
Yeah Bernard is going to get some catches here and there. I don't see him coming close to the touches he had last year though. Hill is a 3 down back. Catches and carries will go up a good bit.
quote:

There's a reason that Lacy goes before Hill in 99% of the drafts. Let put the alma maters aside here and be logical
Please tell me where I'm being illogical.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6929 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 1:15 pm to
Well given that he had 10 games last year where he rushed for 75 yards or less and 6 where it was 50 or less, yeah, I don't get it and I wouldn't waste a top 5 pick on him.

Bama or not.
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