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I picked up Reggie Bush

Posted on 11/17/10 at 11:25 am
Posted by GeauxChad18
Lafayette
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Posted on 11/17/10 at 11:25 am
But would you start him over: Mendenhall, Bradshaw, or MJD?
Posted by TiGeRTeRRoR
Member since Nov 2003
19883 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 11:32 am to
No.
Posted by bigtimejimmyjan12
Member since Nov 2010
53 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 11:57 am to

is this a serious question? i am a saints fan but you have to seperate fantasy and your fanhood.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 1:24 pm to
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you have to seperate fantasy and your fanhood

The cardinal rule of fantasy football.

Has to be one of the worst questions in history
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 1:42 pm to
It's really not that bad. Oakland is not that great of a matchup for Pittsburgh. And just like last year, it seems like when the weather gets cold and it's tough to throw the football, it looks like the Steelers don't care. They are obsessed with airing it out.

Obviously you start Bradshaw and MJD over Bush. But I think there's a legitimate argument to make against mendenhall
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 2:10 pm to
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But I think there's a legitimate argument to make against mendenhall

In case you haven't noticed, the Saints don't mind airing it out either. Oh and FYI, Reggie Bush hasn't played in 8 weeks. His leg was broken.

From the rotowire today:
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Assuming Bush can go, coach Sean Payton, however, has not offered any insight into how much and what role Bush will play on Sunday


So basically what you're saying is that there's a legitimate argument in starting a guy in his first game back after being out for 8 weeks, with a broken leg, in an offense where 7 or 8 guys have almost an equal chance of getting a touchdown, and you don't even know what capacity he is going to play in over a guy who has been 100% healthy, is the only RB on his team that has even scored a touchdown, is tied for the team lead in TDs with 7, has 75% of RB carries, and is facing the Raiders who, contrary to your perception, ranks 24th in the league against the run.

I'm sorry sir, you could not be more mistaken
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4334 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 2:48 pm to
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So basically what you're saying is that there's a legitimate argument in starting a guy in his first game back after being out for 8 weeks, with a broken leg, in an offense where 7 or 8 guys have almost an equal chance of getting a touchdown, and you don't even know what capacity he is going to play in over a guy who has been 100% healthy, is the only RB on his team that has even scored a touchdown, is tied for the team lead in TDs with 7, has 75% of RB carries, and is facing the Raiders who, contrary to your perception, ranks 24th in the league against the run.


Aaaaand boom goes the dynamite
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 3:33 pm to
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jm3


Well. When you look at the players that Bush is competing against, Ivory Jones and Betts. Yes I think Bush has a substantial chance of scoring a TD above any of those guys.

And like you said the Saints air it out. Reggie will be on the field as opposed to Mendenhall where Moore will be on the field.

So boom there goes my dynamite
This post was edited on 11/17/10 at 5:35 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 3:37 pm to
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In case you haven't noticed, the Saints don't mind airing it out either. Oh and FYI, Reggie Bush hasn't played in 8 weeks. His leg was broken.


No I dont watch much football. For awhile there I thought Reggie actually got traded to Oakland and gained 40 pounds.
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Assuming Bush can go, coach Sean Payton, however, has not offered any insight into how much and what role Bush will play on Sunday



Hmm. I thought for sure an NFL head coach would expose him Gameplan to the media.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 4:39 pm to
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Hmm. I thought for sure an NFL head coach would expose him Gameplan to the media.

Since you're going to be a dick I'll respond. I never assumed he would only be in a reduced role nor did I state that. The point I was trying to make was that its a bigger gamble to play reggie bush over Mendenhall. You know Mendenhall is going to get a significant majority of the carries against the 24th ranked rush defense and you don't even know how Bush is going to be used. You stated that Oakland is not a great matchup and you were wrong. They have the best corner in the league which is going to affect the passing game. And please don't think that Jason Campbell or Bruce Gradkowski is going to light up the scoreboard and make Pittsburgh have to pass like Tom Brady did.
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When you look at the players that Bush is competing against, Ivory Jones and Betts. Yes I think Bush has a substantial chance of scoring a TD above any of those guys.

Now throw in Colston, Moore, Meachem, ,Shockey, Campbell, Graham, & Edwards. Compare that to Wallace, Ward, Mendenhall on a team that runs inside the 5. Oh and I know I forgot Heath Miller, he has only 1 TD this season

The only argument you've made is that Pittsburgh likes to "air it out when it starts getting cold." Congratulations on being able to form an opinion. However, it convinces no one.
This post was edited on 11/17/10 at 4:42 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:23 pm to
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jm3


woooh sahhh. Never once did I say its an absolute definite that Bush should start over Mendenhall.

I simply said theres a legitimate argument. Which I believe there is.

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Campbell,
who the F is this ?

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Edwards
who the F is this ?

Are you just making up imaginary players as you go along ?

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Oh and I know I forgot Heath Miller, he has only 1 TD this season
Yet you list Marques Colston and Robert Meachem ? Those guys only have two each. Come on now.
This post was edited on 11/17/10 at 5:32 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:30 pm to
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You know Mendenhall is going to get a significant majority of the carries against the 24th ranked rush defense and you don't even know how Bush is going to be used. You stated that Oakland is not a great matchup and you were wrong


Their giving up like 75 yards a game over the last 3 games on the ground. So yeh, I still say its not a great matchup. Oakland is playing some ball right now.

Take out the game where Houston ran for 250 yards and Oakland's been very solid against the run.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:34 pm to
Look Boss, I'm simply stating that we haven't seen Reggie Bush ever be the clear cut best guy available in the backfield. Ladell Betts, Chris Ivory, Julius Jones...come on these guys are journeymen with the exception of Ivory.

I personally think he sees the field a ton.

Plus Seattle's giving up like 5 yards a carry on the ground in their last 4 games.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:35 pm to
Forgive me, I must have been thinking about Jason Campbell and meant to write David thomas, Edwards should have been Evans. Too much time in the library.

My main issue is that you say there is a legitimate argument when there is none. You brought up 2 points:

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Oakland is not that great of a matchup for Pittsburgh.

24th ranked rush defense, best cover corner in the league to help suppress the one of the hottest receivers in the league. How exactly is it not that great of a matchup? What am I missing?

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And just like last year, it seems like when the weather gets cold and it's tough to throw the football, it looks like the Steelers don't care. They are obsessed with airing it out.

Not only are you basing this off of your own perception, but the same principle is applied to the Saints, just w/o the reasoning.

You made two horseshite arguments. Can Reggie Bush score more than Mendenhall this week? Yes he can and I won't say that he's not. However, considering the factors I listed in my first response to you, Mendenhall is more likely to have a better total and I would assume most would agree. I know you're not saying Reggie should start over him, but there really isn't a single legitimate argument you have made. Sorry I offended your fanhood, I know you just have a raging wood thinking about 25 on the field this week.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:38 pm to
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Sorry I offended your fanhood, I know you just have a raging wood thinking about 25 on the field this week.


lol dude i don't even like the saints.

but i know one thing...Reggie Bush is a hell of a lot better then the crap they have right now.
This post was edited on 11/17/10 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:40 pm to
I agree he's much better, which is why I'm thinking about starting him over the flex crap I have right now with woodhead and felix...woodhead ain't half bad, just won't have a blow up game...
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:43 pm to
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Edwards should have been Evans


so you list a FB in your argument.....NICE.

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What am I missing?
75 Yards a game on the ground over the last 3...Again this ain't the same Oakland team, their playing well, coming off a bye. Come on now....
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Not only are you basing this off of your own perception


Perception ? It's fricking reality..Big Ben attempted 506 passing attempts last year to Brees' 514. And Big Ben attempted 49 pass attempts last week.

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You made two horseshite arguments


Yet your just making up names. Like Campbell and Edwards
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:46 pm to
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Brageous

But would you start him over Mendenhall?
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:48 pm to
You win guy. Join our league next year?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27420 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 5:54 pm to
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You win guy. Join our league next year?



Nah I'm good. Couldn't take a whole season dealing with douchebags Like you.
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