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re: #1 pick in FF this year

Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:59 pm to
Lacy and Peterson don't have questions
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:05 am to
i have 2nd and 3rd pick in two drafts.

i like charles and lacy.

charles pros- alot of touches, main focus of offense
charles cons- milege and injury concerns

lacy pros- alot of opportunity to score tds in high power offense
lacy cons- they are a passing offense

ap scares the hell out of me. I cant take a risk on a guy who has sit out a yr and has so many question marks.

bell i love, but do i want to use a top pick on a guy missing the first couple weeks? Can i recover from that?

Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:51 pm to
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Does anyone think Foster will hold up this year? I've read he's as healthy as he's ever been.


I've always been a bit of a pessimist on Foster. When I read your statement, all I see is : poised for another injury.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:16 pm to
to me, Bell would be the pick if he didn't have to sit a few games.

it isn't a lot of games... but still. I'd kind of be fidgety those first few weeks w/o the #1 pick.

Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36454 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:16 pm to
He's going 1st round in my league
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

Lacy and Peterson don't have questions


Peterson doesn't? You were joking about someone's post, right?
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 7:40 pm to
I'm anxious to see how McCoy looks in Buffalo.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51680 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:06 pm to
He's had a year to do nothing but stay in shape. He's not going to forget how to be the best RB in football
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 8:11 pm to
Normally I'd say you're crazy, but after watching what Peterson did coming of ACL surgery, he might be the best again next year.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28418 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 9:38 pm to
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Peterson doesn't?

I mean he's posted double digit TDs every year he's been in the league if you take away last season. And it's not like he's coming back from an injury. AP will be fine if not better
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:09 am to
ap is like 50yrs old, comming into a bad situation. He doesnt want to be there, hasnt played in a year. There are tons of questions.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
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Posted on 6/24/15 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51680 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Why Adrian Peterson should be the No. 1 pick in 2015

1. Peterson does, in fact, have superstar ability as shown by one heck of a resume.


From 2007 (his rookie season) through 2013, Peterson appeared in at least 12 games each year. He scored 10 or more rushing touchdowns each of those seasons and was never below 1,100 scrimmage yards. In NFL history, only LaDainian Tomlinson (2001-08) has matched that feat to start his career. Since debuting in 2007, Peterson has racked up a league-high 1,548 carries against opposing base defenses. His 5.2 yards-per-carry mark is second-best (Jamaal Charles: 5.5) among 60 backs with 350-plus carries in the category. Watch the tape. Check the numbers. Ask your dad. The guy is one of the best ever.

2. He's previously fared well after an extended absence.

Peterson tore his ACL during the 2011 season and missed nearly all of the following offseason. He went on to enjoy a career year in 2012, racking up 2,314 yards and 13 touchdowns on 388 touches. Peterson, of course, was in his prime at age 27 that year, but it's hard to ignore such an incredible recovery and subsequent dominance. And this time he's not coming off an injury.

3. Norv Turner's impact can't be overlooked.

Peterson's fantasy dominance over the past decade is even more impressive when you consider how little he's done as a receiver. During his first seven seasons in the NFL, he averaged 29.4 receptions per year and scored a grand total of five receiving touchdowns. Meanwhile, over the past eight years, Turner's running back units have averaged 104 receptions per season and totaled 31 receiving touchdowns. In 2014 - Turner's first year with Minnesota - Vikings tailbacks combined for 82 receptions. That's well above the 61 per game enjoyed by Minnesota backs during Peterson's first seven seasons. Matt Asiata (44 receptions last year) and Jerick McKinnon (27) were fairly unimpressive in the role, which will help keep Peterson on the field on passing downs. There's a very good chance Peterson eclipses his career high of 43 receptions and 436 yards this season.

4. The Vikings are good at football.

The Minnesota offense scored 29 touchdowns last season, which ranked 25th in the NFL. That's not very good, but there is very good reason to believe the Vikings will be much better offensively (and possibly even a playoff contender) in 2015. As thoroughly examined here by yours truly and KC Joyner, Teddy Bridgewater is the real deal. Displaying impressive downfield accuracy (relative to all passers, not just rookies), Bridgewater was Pro Football Focus' top-rated quarterback over the final five weeks last season. History suggests Bridgewater should improve in his second season, which will be helped along by a much-improved supporting cast. As if Peterson's return wasn't enough, Mike Wallace was acquired and Kyle Rudolph is fully back from injury. Minnesota figures to finish no worse than mid-pack in scoring and will certainly lean on its running game with Peterson in the fold. The Vikings' improved defense will allow additional rushing opportunities in the second half of games.

Outlook

Of course, as is the case for any player you'll consider on draft day, there are legitimate risks with Peterson. The two primary concerns with Peterson revolve around his age and his time off.

History shows that age 30 isn't necessarily a death sentence for running backs. Over the past 15 years, 13 running backs 30 years or older have put together a season with 1,000 scrimmage yards and at least 10 touchdowns. That includes 30-year-old Priest Holmes' 2,110-yard, 27-touchdown 2003 campaign. As for Peterson's recovery from the time off, we can only speculate his impact. He could be fresh. He could've lost a step. Maybe the two offset and it's a non-factor. It's something we can't quantify and baseless speculation is never advisable when it comes to the evaluation of a player's ability.

At the end of the day, Peterson is an elite talent and a rare, workhorse back in an offense that will lean on the run and score plenty of points. His track record and ability easily offset any concerns about his age and time off. Peterson is your best bet with the first overall pick.



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Posted by Zoltan
NOLA
Member since May 2010
1395 posts
Posted on 6/24/15 at 4:02 pm to
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Does anyone think Foster will hold up this year? I've read he's as healthy as he's ever been.



quote:

I've always been a bit of a pessimist on Foster. When I read your statement, all I see is : poised for another injury.


At least he has a legit handcuff in Blue so it is much easier to take him and sleep easy if he gets banged up.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:51 am to
i will let some other genius take ap like i did last year
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158763 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 8:55 am to
anderson is going to win some leagues for people
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28418 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:20 am to
Monte Ball could also be a great fit in Kubiak's system. Let's remember he was a high draft pick (2nd round) going into his 3rd year now. And Kubiak is known for turning RBs into studs.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if people get burned by Anderson and Ball becomes the lead back into the season. Not saying it WILL happen but it's a possibility
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112335 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:37 am to
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Monte Ball could also be a great fit in Kubiak's system. Let's remember he was a high draft pick (2nd round) going into his 3rd year now. And Kubiak is known for turning RBs into studs.



Yessss, let's get the yearly montee ball hype train rolling. Love watching it crash and burn every year
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158763 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:59 am to
everything I've been reading points to anderson is in great shape and looks like an ideal fit for Kubiak's system.

Pretty much every Denver RB that got a shot last year looked better than Ball did when given his chance. I don't think he's a factor, former 2nd rd pick sure, but that was under a different regime. Kubiak has no loyalty to him or pressure to play him as to not admit defeat on the pick.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28418 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

let's get the yearly montee ball hype train rolling.

With a new coach and system it's a possibility. Just look at Justin Forsett for example.

I'd rather take a Forte or Foster who's proven and take a cheap ticket at Ball later in the draft. You're not risking much at that point.

quote:

Kubiak has no loyalty to him or pressure to play him as to not admit defeat on the pick.

While this is true, I don't think he's got loyalty to any of the RBs. He'll play the best back and CJ will get the 1st shot at it. Ball is someone I think could step in mid-season if something were to happen to Anderson. (Injury or performance) You're not burning yourself drafting Ball this season which is why I like the pick. Risk vs Reward
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 10:05 am
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