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Pence and Kaine - How big of a deal were the VP choices??
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:15 pm
IMO the VP debate was a huge turning point for DJT snd HRC. The nation was introduced to a calm, cool, professional, like able Mike Pence and a whiny, yappy, unlikeable Tim Kaine.
Pence complimented DJT perfectly and Kaine was clearly a poor match with HRC.
Pence complimented DJT perfectly and Kaine was clearly a poor match with HRC.
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Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:16 pm to STEVED00
One was just prissy.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:17 pm to STEVED00
Hard to say given the influence of the primary candidates but I tend to agree overall. I think the HC camp just wanted Kaine kept hidden for the most part because he's so awful. Just my subjective observation though.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:17 pm to STEVED00
People don't vote for someone because of their vice president, people vote for top of ticket
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:17 pm to STEVED00
Kaine was nothing but weaksauce
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:18 pm to BigVoodoo
There are 320 million different people in this country. They vote for a lot of diverse reasons
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:19 pm to STEVED00
He accomplished his purpose. They won Va.
Yay!
Now go back to the bench.
Yay!
Now go back to the bench.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:19 pm to STEVED00
As a very devout, conservative, evangelical Christian, Pence definitely helped. But the attacks against the Trump rally in San Jose is what really pushed me into his camp. Until then I was going to sit at home and not vote.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:19 pm to STEVED00
They CAN be used effectively as the face of international politics, but who knows
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:21 pm to BigVoodoo
quote:
People don't vote for someone because of their vice president, people vote for top of ticket
Kennedy picked Johnson to deliver him the state of Texas. Reagan picked Bush I as Bush was part of the Republican establishment that Reagan needed to get elected. There are numerous other examples, but these are just two.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:23 pm to STEVED00
MAGA could've put Palin on train and he would've won. That's no knock against Pence because he is truly an a asset.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:23 pm to IvanCCCP
My wife said in this election she was voting for the VP, since it was likely Clinton would die in office or get impeached/arrested and knowing the left wing kooks Trump might be assassinated. I'm not sure just how serious she was...
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:25 pm to STEVED00
I think the choice of Pence made some evangelicals think twice about NOT voting for Trump. I know for a fact that friends of ours fall into that category. While I'm not an evangelical, I am very comfortable with having Pence as #2. He is poised, experienced, calm, and overall very likeable and reliable. Unless you're a demented feminist or some other such extremist.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:26 pm to STEVED00
Hillary and Co had to have Virginia. They got it. They also thought Kaine would appeal to white males somehow. They miscalculated. I don't know anyone around here who can state anything that Kaine has accomplished and he was mayor of Richmond or Governor of VA. I do remember him being pro-business, but other than that milktoast...
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:29 pm to STEVED00
I didn't know much about either before being named VP. My first impressions still apply:
Pence... impressive
Kaine ... creepy
Pence... impressive
Kaine ... creepy
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:33 pm to STEVED00
Pence reeled in all of the true GOP voters. Kaine was called a pussy by his wife
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:38 pm to STEVED00
Pence demonstrated Trump wasn't just giving lip service to conservative values, so I think he was a huge asset for Trump.
Kaine was a Clinton brown noser...she liked him more than other people did.
Kaine was a Clinton brown noser...she liked him more than other people did.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 12:51 pm to geauxtigersgirl
Agree.
Pence was picked for 2 reasons:
1. Sell Christian conservatives on DJT - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
2. Compliment DJT by being strong where he was perceived as weak. Classy, Proffesional, Calm - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Kaine was picked her 2 reasons:
1. Win Virginia - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
2. Sell males on HRC - EPIC FAILURE.
Pence was picked for 2 reasons:
1. Sell Christian conservatives on DJT - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
2. Compliment DJT by being strong where he was perceived as weak. Classy, Proffesional, Calm - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
Kaine was picked her 2 reasons:
1. Win Virginia - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
2. Sell males on HRC - EPIC FAILURE.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 11/9/16 at 1:01 pm to STEVED00
On one hand, I think these VP picks were important because of the age of the nominees. And certainly HRC received a slight boost in VA from Kaine's selection.
On the other hand, the strong and contrasting personas of these candidates made the VP picks a second thought.
On the other hand, the strong and contrasting personas of these candidates made the VP picks a second thought.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 1:03 pm to south bama tiger
Pence brought stability to the ticket as he is seen as an advisor who can reign in Trump when he goes off the deep end.
Kaine was brought in as a Beta to not upstage Hillary
Kaine was brought in as a Beta to not upstage Hillary
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