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For my Christian brothers

Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:25 am
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:25 am
"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

Romans 13:1

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:25 am to
"Render unto Caesar what is his."
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
2094 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:26 am to
So the Founding Fathers were sinners in rebellion?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31495 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:26 am to
a) this is whackable.

b) Romans 13:1 has been bastardized and misconstrued to shite.

c) I reject your implication, whatever it may be.

eta : and

quote:

"Render unto Caesar what is his."


see a) - c) except insert the gospel verse where Romans one is.
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 7:28 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39947 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:28 am to
Um, your Christian brothers should've already known that.
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to
So if Hillary wins God wanted her to?
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to
Yes, I believe that they probably were. Although, that is between them and God. The true motivation for the american revolution, in my opinion, wasn't freedom. It was the usual motive...money.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36761 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:29 am to
quote:

So if Hillary wins God wanted her to?
correct. She would be gods choice
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:30 am to
Read the part about following them until they start with the UnGodly things and then follow God.
quote:


Should we obey governments that are bad?

Romans 13:1 says, "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God." If this is so, what about the bad governments like the Nazis or the communist regimes where they killed millions? If God is the one who sets up governments, are we supposed to obey those bad governments?

The answer is no.

We are to obey governments unless they violate Scripture. Acts 5:29 says, "We must obey God rather than men." Whenever a government violates biblical teaching, Christians are obligated to disobey that government. For example, if a government were to declare that we should kill all Asians, or immigrants, or people with Down's syndrome, we should disobey. Governments are run by people and often become corrupt. Furthermore, the Bible never tells us to obey governments in contradiction to the revealed word of God.


This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 7:33 am
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:31 am to
quote:

So if Hillary wins God wanted her to?


Sure. See the Jewish exile. God has a purpose in everything he does and works good through all things. With that said, I hope Trump wins.
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
2094 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:31 am to
quote:

It was the usual motive...money


Too simplistic. But yes, $$ was and always is a factor.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40970 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:31 am to
It's hard to peg this to be honest. Taxation without representation is just plain wrong. And that's what lead to major changes. All England needed was to allow the Colonies to have a voice...
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Too simplistic. But yes, $$ was and always is a factor.


Sure
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:32 am to
So by that logic would all of those who support trump then need to support her as it was gods will? I'm not trying to stir the pot I didn't vote for her I just want to know if these fellow Christians will support a candidate they don't believe in even if it's gods will and if they will put their faith in his wisdom or find a reason to oppose her and come up with a reason why God chose her as a test of faith or some other reason
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34908 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:34 am to
So....Hitler? Stalin? Mao?
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
2094 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:35 am to
Anchored thread. Admins are evil atheists (like me.) HAHA. not really. I'm sure They're Nazi trumpkins.
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:35 am to
He would allow her to become president, because of the wickedress in hearts of his people.
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:36 am to
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So by that logic would all of those who support trump then need to support her as it was gods will?


No. I don't think that's the purpose of the verse. You can follow the laws of your country without supporting the leaders. I will never support her, but I will continue to obey the laws of my country and pay my taxes, but only to the extent that they do not interfere with the natural law established by God. I don't believe in moral relativism.
Posted by ThermoDynamicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1278 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 7:38 am to
quote:

So....Hitler? Stalin? Mao?


Yes, I lot of evil was committed by them, but a lot of good came out of the wars fought because of them. You really get to see who is real and who is fake when things get tough. I don't always know God's will in everything. There have been worse people throughout history too.
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