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Am I the only one who is pumped about education reform?

Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:37 pm
No more common core. Maybe the liberal agenda in our children's education might be wiped out.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47907 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 3:40 pm to
Can't agree more I have one in college who barely got out of high school in time and a second grader. The stuff theyre teaching my little one makes me wanna cry it's so counter productive. Also have a sister that teaches and she's told me the teachers are fighting against it tooth and nail but now might actually be heard.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:07 pm to
No, you're not the only one. I can almost bet that Common Core is dead. But I also hope the indoctrination and liberal propaganda is eradicated like the plague it is. And hopefully kids will start learning American history and civics again.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50182 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:09 pm to
What's your specific gripe with common core? That it's too hard?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:11 pm to
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What's your specific gripe with common core? That it's too hard?



I don't know enough about its content to attack that specifically, but I do know that federalized, centralized standards are absolutely terrible for any kind of innovation or advancement.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:12 pm to
Texas never opted into Common Core.
This post was edited on 11/9/16 at 4:13 pm
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14145 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:13 pm to
I have a third grader and right now it is mostly just normal adding double digit numbers, multiplication and division. When he was in 2nd grade common core math was a mess. Made zero sense. Can't wait until this is purged from the school systems.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5196 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:15 pm to
Need school competition and choice for poor children. MAGA!!
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50182 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:16 pm to
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I don't know enough about its content to attack that specifically, but I do know that federalized, centralized standards are absolutely terrible for any kind of innovation or advancement.



Requiring students to be able to find the area of a polygon doesn't seem to impede innovation imo.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:19 pm to
Information control is mind control. We need to eliminate the federal Department of Education and return education decisions back to the states and local school boards because they are turning our children into clueless social justice warriors.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:22 pm to
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counter productive


You not understanding it doesn't make it counterproductive.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:23 pm to
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Requiring students to be able to find the area of a polygon doesn't seem to impede innovation imo.



Cubbies, this is a strawman.

My claim was about centralized and federalized educational standards, not about the content within it.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76678 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:26 pm to
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Information control is mind control. We need to eliminate the federal Department of Education and return education decisions back to the states and local school boards because they are turning our children into clueless social justice warriors.



And for all of those libs and Bushies who think THEY need to take education control from states because some of them don't handle it right, guess what? People in those states VOTE for their leaders and policies.

If a state's education system sucks, it's the fault of the people and their elected leaders in that state.

If that causes them to struggle economically versus the rest of the nation, they need to fix the problems. You know, like, try to emulate states who get it right.

It's not that hard. Competition, as always, makes our nation stronger in all areas.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

And for all of those libs and Bushies who think THEY need to take education control from states because some of them don't handle it right, guess what? People in those states VOTE for their leaders and policies.

If a state's education system sucks, it's the fault of the people and their elected leaders in that state.

If that causes them to struggle economically versus the rest of the nation, they need to fix the problems. You know, like, try to emulate states who get it right.


This is interesting.

I haven't had much issue with federal standards, because the LA standards were so terrible. As crazy as it sounds, I'd rather the bureaucrats in DC decide what my kids learn, because the ones in Baton Rouge and the unions here are horrific. I want my kids to learn... I don't care who decides the standards as long as they are good... and in LA... they were terrible for decades.

If we can't fix the system in LA... do we just damn our kids to crappy learning? Or go outside the box, which is what common core did.

Having two kids in school, I'm glad we chose the option we did.
Posted by SOUTHFLATIGER
South Florida
Member since Dec 2003
412 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:55 pm to
School choice, charter schools, vouchers. In other words, competition!
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 4:58 pm to
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I can almost bet that Common Core is dead.


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But I also hope the indoctrination and liberal propaganda is eradicated like the plague it is.


My kids are in public school, Kinder and 3rd grade.

My kinder is just learning how to count and phonics and sight words.

My third grader, I review her homework and classwork with her every night. Her days is basically three blocks - English/Language Arts, Math, and what they call Social Learning, which is basically Science and History (they do a two week unit on science, then a 2 week unit on history, etc).

This two week period is history, specifically Louisiana history. I read the textbook every night. I look at the homework. I can tell you there is absolutely no propaganda in her state or her national history book. None. No liberal indoctrination.

She is doing a poster project this week and she could choose any LA "influential person" she chose. She chose Lindy Boggs. A friend of hers chose Tom Benson.

Her science consists of learning about measurements, rocks, weather, etc. No mention of climate change.

Math they are learning some new ways to do things, but every thing they learn makes perfect sense if you take 10 minutes to think about it. She's doing algebra in third grade. Algebra. ELA is fine as well. No crazy stories.

Maybe it's different when they get older, but in third grade, the fears of propaganda are way overblown.
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