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The Eaux Way: short/light August practices...

Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:44 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17868 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:44 am
...and what'd that give us?

1. A new offense with players who still don't know their positions

2. A team with no toughness

3. A team with no conditioning.


Yet somehow this is all the predecessor's fault. #yawyawtalkingpoints
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:46 am to
Substitute teacher syndrome
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:53 am to
This 100%. It's obvious he thought they could take care of their own conditioning like responsible pros do.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21440 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:57 am to
I've heard this, but is it true? I would think that even O would know that preseason conditioning is crucial.

I can understand backing off once the season is underway and I contribute a lot of the success following O's takeover last year to this and having fresh legs in the game.

Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17868 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:10 am to
Yes, go read the Advocate articles from fall camp. We used shorter practices, per Pete Carroll days for Ogre. And much less intense work...

quote:

The Tigers will hit “some, but not much” during camp weeks leading up to scrimmages, Orgeron said.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:13 am to
Nobody knows 100% if it's true or not since everything was closed off to the public and media. However I've seen the effects of conditioning in building a team. I've also seen plenty of teams who don't put an emphasis on conditioning because the players don't like it. They play sluggish, uninspired, and weak. Doesn't matter if they are more talented, if you don't want to fight for it, then it shows.

That's what I see on the field. The talent is there, as is the size and the speed. No fight.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23019 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:15 am to
It's true. They do look like a team that needs more practice and wasn't ready for the season.
Posted by InflateADate
Member since Dec 2010
879 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:43 am to
The shorter practices in the pre season have completely ruined this team for the year. It's a huge reason why we are getting beat on the lines at both sides of the ball. Shorter practices in season are fine but should never be the case preparing for the year.

Go back and look at one of our best seasons ever in 2011 and we had extremely intense practices throughout training camp prepping for Oregon and we looked amazing throughout the year because of it.

The biggest issue now is you can't go back and get those practices back which makes this season a huge wash. We won't instantly just get better or more in shape mid season. O has made plenty of mistakes but this may be the biggest one so far

Also here's a Nola article along with the advocate clip from above talking about less practice, more film room

Nola article

quote:

But long before fall camp, Orgeron started to slowly shift the team into one he could call his own.

The first thing to go were the longer practices - much to the joy of players. Orgeron replaced Miles' longer practices with shorter times spent on the field and more time spent studying the opponents and in the film room.


This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17868 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:28 am to
We may eventually catch up on the offense's lack of preparation from August, but we won't catch up on the team's overall lack of conditioning and toughness. We screwed.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:32 am to
So far the entire team looks like SNOWFLAKES!!!
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:34 am to
quote:

The first thing to go were the longer practices - much to the joy of players. Orgeron replaced Miles' longer practices with shorter times spent on the field and more time spent studying the opponents and in the film room.


Except the players have said they actually spend less time watching film now
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