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FYI: The flag/anthem represents an ideal, not the nation as it currently is

Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69263 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:53 pm
Loving your country DOES NOT MEAN you think the country doesn't have problems. On the contrary, many times loving something is a prerequisite to wishing it would be reformed.

Who is more likely to help their child seek treatment for drug addiction?

Somebody who loves their child or somebody who hates/gave up on their child?

So, when you stand and look at that flag and open your ears to those lyrics, you aren't saying "I respect the perfection of this country". You are saying "I respect the ideals of this nation and the people who have sacrificed themselves to make that ideal reality wherever they could"

All of the greatest Americans who made this country better had tremendous love in their hearts for its guiding philosophy.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19993 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:55 pm to
Preaching to the choir
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:55 pm to
This needed its own thread.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57864 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:56 pm to
Upvote!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69263 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

This needed its own thread.
Your ancestors were freed by men who had american ideals in their heart.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:01 pm to
Part of me feels like the only thing that can remind people of the sanctity of the American ideal is another bloody war. We've become complacent, and Obama, Soros and the like have preyed on that complacency to gin up a bunch of unfounded discontent. We've become the national equivalent of the so-called red-headed step-child.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:03 pm to
The worst part is the stupidity of it. It's nothing but attention whoring and a bunch of sheep followers. It can't accomplish anything.

Will it stop the tides from rising? No
Will it stop murders? don't think so
Will it bring rain to drought stricken corners of the earth? Nope
Will it help blacks forgive their oppressors for these many decades they've suffered all the free food, millions of dollars to athletes, advantages in being hired, and so on. Nah
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 1:06 pm to
Wtf? I like you and all but if you said that to me irl id hit ya with an overhand right.
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