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re: LSU v. Wake Forest 1979 Tangerine Bowl

Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:46 am to
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:46 am to
I'm sure most folks have seen JEB's original SI article, but I link it here since it mentions many on the 1979 team.

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Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10926 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:49 am to
That was my favorite Bowl Game as a GBFTL drummer.

We got a week in Orlando, free day at Disney World and a parade through the grounds.

1979. That was the year of the most intense game in Tiger Stadium history.
Posted by Mooreman
Kildare , Ireland
Member since May 2016
871 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:43 am to
Fantastic book.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16832 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:31 am to
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Fantastic book


Indeed, but many here have complained about it.

They picked it up expecting it to be some gung-ho rah-rah Geaux-Tigers book and it is anything but that.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 6:32 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68656 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 7:35 am to
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kid, i kid cant wait to see something different this year


And after firing Mac LSU went through 8 coaches that averaged only 3 years at the program before they get the next winningest coach in history. Hopefully it doesn't take that long again.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:49 am to
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GBFTL drummer


Rouse's favorite section the band.

My last game in the band-Wickes came in with 2 hour a day rehearsals and I decided I needed to try and graduate at some point. Great final game for me and Mac (who was my neighbor growing up)
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:24 am to
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And after firing Mac LSU went through 8 coaches that averaged only 3 years at the program before they get the next winningest coach in history. Hopefully it doesn't take that long again.



Well Arnsparger and Saban weren't exactly failures. Really, if not for Saban it might have been a longer period in the shite can.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:57 am to
Arnsparger and Saban were elite. I still wonder what might have been if we hadn't lost Bo Rein.
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1063 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:35 am to
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And after firing Mac LSU went through 8 coaches that averaged only 3 years at the program before they get the next winningest coach in history. Hopefully it doesn't take that long again.
But it was still the correct decision to let Mac go.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 10:37 am
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:47 am to
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The USC-LSU game is the first game broadcast by ESPN, you can see the ESPN banners on the replay.


Broadcast on delay a few days later.ESPN didn't show live games until 1984.Of all teams,our first ESPN live football game was against Vanderbilt in '84.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3476 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:10 pm to
It was shown live on ESPN, and they have changed the first game on EPSN about 4 different times now, ESPN does not even know their on history.

The game was blacked out in Louisiana and shown a few days later.

ESPN made a huge deal about this game in 1979.

Also remember ESPN broadcast USFL football live in 1983 and that is long after they started broadcasting college games.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:44 pm to
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The defense was pretty solid, too, especially the secondary. James Britt, Willie Teal, Marcus Quinn.


The Golden Era of the Soul Patrol.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 2:05 pm to
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It was shown live on ESPN


No,it wasn't.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 2:15 pm to
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But it was still the correct decision to let Mac go.


What precipitated Mac's firing? I vaguely remember "Help Mac Pack" signs around the city (I was only 14 at the time).
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 3:19 pm to
I enrolled at LSU in 1980 and wasn't much of an LSU fan until I got there.So,I'm going on what I remember,heard before and after.

1974 seem to be the beginning of the end for McClendon.From 1967 through 1973, LSU had the second best winning percentage behind only Tennessee.Also, McClendon's winning percentage vs Bear wasn't very good. His two wins came in 1969 and 1970 against medicore Alabama teams. But a lot of other teams weren't beating Alabama,either.

1974 was the Year of the Veer.Athlon's had LSU to win the SEC that year.LSU started out #9 and moved to #7 after easily defeating Colorado who had been quite good for a while.Then lost at home 21-14 to A&M,who was on the uptick.LSU was fortunate to tie Rice in Houston the following week,10-10.

LSU later lost to Florida (who was quite good) for the first time since 1966, Kentucky for the first time since 1960 and Miss State for the first time since 1963.Alabama creamed LSU on national TV 30-0 in Birmingham.

5-5-1 was followed by 4-7 on the field. The 1976 team flirted with success,tying preseason #1 Nebraska and losing narrowly to top 10 Florida in Gainesville. But Kentucky and Alabama won again,plus Miss State as LSU went 6-4-1. Team was bowl eligible but not selected. (NCAA put State on probation and were handed retroactive wins vs them in '75 and '76.)

Big things were expect in '77. After an upset loss at Indiana, the offense put up 77 on Rice, beat then #9 Florida 36-14 and then finally put away Vandy in Nashville, 28-15 after trailing midway in the third 15-0. But Kentucky came to Baton Rouge the next week and creamed the Tigers, 33-13.Still ranked a few weeks later, LSU lost at home to Alabama 24-3 and then dropped the Sun Bowl to finish 8-4.

Can't help put think someone had to get the word out that 1978 was going to be crucial.Again, lots of expectations. But right out of the gate messed around at home vs a bad Indiana and even worse Wake Forest team.But seemed to get it together and left Gainesville 4-0 and #11.Georgia,the surprise of the SEC stunned the Tigers, 24-17 .But LSU hung in there and went to Birmingham to face #3 Alabama, 6-1 and #10.

LSU scored first to go up 7-0.It appeared LSU was going to lead 14-0 after a pick 6,but a phantom clipped wiped out a TD. Alabama would go on to win 31-10.Who knows what might have happened had LSU led 14-0.

Here is where LSU was LSU. A BOS meeting decided to can McClendon after the season.AD Paul Dietzel fought for Mac and got a concession for him to coach the 1979 season as he'd be President of the coaches association.State then won in Jackson and LSU kind of coasted in the last two games and lost to Missouri in the Liberty.

I'm sure I either left something out, mischaracterized something ,so now someone will roar in with the whole story.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17893 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:52 pm to
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Big things were expect in '77. After an upset loss at Indiana, the offense put up 77 on Rice, beat then #9 Florida 36-14 and then finally put away Vandy in Nashville, 28-15 after trailing midway in the third 15-0. But Kentucky came to Baton Rouge the next week and creamed the Tigers, 33-13.
That UK game was my first ever in Tiger Stadium. I was 8. My grandad brought me. I remember the scoreboard referred to them as "Tucky" the entire game, which was funny to an 8 year old. By the end of the game, I figured they whupped us because we butchered their name.
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1063 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:55 pm to
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I'm sure I either left something out, mischaracterized something ,so now someone will roar in with the whole story.
No you summed it up pretty well. I will say that McClendon's failure to notch even ONE win against a team that finished ranked in the final polls his last five seasons pretty much sealed his fate. Cholly Mac wasn't fired because he couldn't beat Bear Bryant as the legend goes. He was fired for losing to Tulane, Kentucky, and Indiana his last few seasons. And the idea that LSU suffered for 20 years between McClendon and Saban is a bunch of BS as well. On the contrary, the 1980's were pretty good for LSU......certainly better than Mac's last six years. The Tigers went to two Sugar Bowls and an Orange Bowl during the 1980's. Now one could argue that the 1990's were bad but that has nothing to do with McClendon being let go in 1979. Just my 2 cents.
Posted by LSU CRAZY
Da Bestbank!!
Member since Dec 2004
3454 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:30 pm to
Lost to Tulane in the dome that year.

Damn weenies!
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1063 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:49 pm to
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That UK game was my first ever in Tiger Stadium. I was 8. My grandad brought me. I remember the scoreboard referred to them as "Tucky" the entire game, which was funny to an 8 year old. By the end of the game, I figured they whupped us because we butchered their name.


That 1977 Kentucky team was flat out loaded. Their QB was Derrick Ramsey who was 6'8" and was later a TE for the Raiders. They also had Jim Kovach at LB and he later played for the Saints. Kentucky went 10-1 and finished ranked #5 or #6 in the final AP poll but were unable to go to a bowl due to probation.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:58 pm to
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On the contrary, the 1980's were pretty good for LSU......certainly better than Mac's last six years. The Tigers went to two Sugar Bowls and an Orange Bowl during the 1980's.


That's how I remember feeling in the 1980s. Really only 2 bad years (both Stovall) which had immediate rebounds the following years. The 3 seasons Arnsparger coached were solid and I had high hopes after Archer's first year. Those were a really good 4 years (although that Liberty Bowl loss to Baylor stunk).
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