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ACA: a very important reason Trump got elected

Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:28 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56268 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:28 pm
And it cannot be understated. Blowback against PC and liberal bullshite is a chief cultural reason, but nothing compared to the swelling HC bills people have been getting in the mail and itemized on their pay stubs. This is why this issue is the worst one for Trump to compromise.
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Call it the Jonathan Gruber election. Gruber is the Ford professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in Cambridge, Massachusetts. He got his Ph.D. at Harvard. As a White House consultant, he helped to design Obamacare and was then caught afterward on videotape explaining its passage by talking about "the stupidity of the American voter."

Well, if anyone is "stupid" in this story, it's not the voters, but the academics that in their hubris designed an Affordable Care Act that became so unpopular that it became a decisive factor in Hillary Clinton's defeat. These economists and health care experts—Jonathan Gruber and people like him—have fancy graduate degrees, but they designed a law whose results aren't exactly making them or the politicians they advised look like geniuses.

Asra Q. Nomani, a Muslim woman immigrant who voted in Virginia for Donald Trump, explained in a Washington Post column that she did so in part because, "I am a single mother who can't afford health insurance under Obamacare."

A friend of mine reported that while volunteering for the Clinton campaign in Pennsylvania, she encountered one voter who had just gotten off the phone with her health insurance company, "battling an astronomical increase in premiums. A cancer survivor, she had lost her favorite doctor when she went onto Obamacare two years earlier. Now her rates were going up." That voter wound up supporting Trump, too.

A Politico postmortem of the Clinton campaign reported, "The soaring Obamacare premiums announced last month hurt Clinton, some said."

Even Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, conceded in a post-election article: "Americans want reform to Obamacare—?Democrats included. We must bring down the costs of health insurance and the cost of health care."

What was Obamacare, in the end, but an arrogant overreach by an elite out of touch with the rest of America?
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Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81397 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:30 pm to
I will never understand how/why the folks in control of the ACA weren't able to hold back those rate increase letters for just 3 more weeks to save Hillary. Astounded that they came out when they did.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2049 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:45 pm to
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I will never understand how/why the folks in control of the ACA weren't able to hold back those rate increase letters for just 3 more weeks to save Hillary. Astounded that they came out when they did.

They already held them back for 4 years...
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:47 pm to
They held them back in 2012 for Obama.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29026 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:47 pm to
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Jonathan Gruber election. Gruber is the Ford professor of economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in Cambridge, Massachusetts. He got his Ph.D. at Harvard. As a White House consultant,



Deserves to be beaten / caned, tarred & feathered, and shamed in the public square and on national TV.


And he is not the only one.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56268 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 2:44 pm to
I think other entities had a hand in it, and Obama couldn't stop it.

To me, this is the #1 reason why Trump won. If premiums continue to stay this high (and with the preservation of pre-existing conditions, they might), mu support for Trump will disappear.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:08 pm to
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To me, this is the #1 reason why Trump won


It's certainly a big part of the overall economic hardship that's gripping much of the nation. Obamacare doesn't only hurt people via high premiums and deductibles. It's also a huge job killer.

Trump wanting to keep "children" covered by their parents' plan until age 26 is really no big deal. Keeping the mandate for coverage of individuals with pre-existing conditions IS a big deal. It's a budget buster. Maybe we can keep it for a transition period of a year or two, to allow all who CURRENTLY have a pre-existing condition to obtain "coverage". But after that, insurance has to go back to being insurance.
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