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MT suggestions for market index investing

Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:51 am
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:51 am
After watching my oil heavy portfolio take a beating for the past month, I think I've decided that I would like to put some money in some sort of simple index fund. Anyone have any suggestions for the best funds for this? ETF vs MF (which has the lowest fee structure?)? Dow vs Nasdaq vs S&P 500? Thanks in advance for your input/opinions.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:05 am to
JMO, but I think that it is a little late for indexing.

Going forward, it is going to be a stock pickers market for a while. It's been a good run, but obviously, things are starting to change.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:30 am to
What?
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7123 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:49 am to
Now's the time to load up on some, relatively, cheap large and mid cap energy stocks. The underlying need for energy is only going to grow as the population grows. XOM, CVX, COP will all be here still when you retire. Buy them now while they're cheap.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:53 am to
quote:

JMO, but I think that it is a little late for indexing.

Going forward, it is going to be a stock pickers market for a while. It's been a good run, but obviously, things are starting to change.



What's this?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:54 am to
I know. I don't at all get the idea behind not indexing.
Posted by Blakely Bimbo
Member since Dec 2010
1183 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:43 am to
IMO, something big is getting ready to happen. The SNB breaking the Euro peg is a big frigging deal.

It could signal that the ECB is going to execute a QE next week. How big? Who knows? Could be that the Swiss Central Bank knows its coming and it is getting in front of the ECB or it could mean that there has been a break in central bank co ordination.

Also, yesterday at Bloomberg, there was an article concerning Yellen signaling that she ain't going to babysit market turmoil. Read it...

Bloomberg

OK, so IF the ECB announces a huge QE next week, where is the money going to flow to? Too many unknowns right now, although a big Euro QE could put a floor on commods.

Anecdotally, I noticed that during this Christmas shopping season, the deals started way before Black Friday. Lower prices everywhere. Deflation... and last week I heard of a friend whose company has asked for employees to take a high teens salary reduction. The company involved is in no way connected to the price of energy. That's the first one I have heard, but I will be looking for a trend.

For me I am not selling, but I don't want to put NEW money to index funds until there is a clearer picture of what investors will be dealing with going forward.

As always do your own due diligence.

This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8958 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:47 pm to
So does anyone have any specific funds that they would recommend as vehicles to ride the market?

eta: I went ahead and put some money in TDV, a 2040 target date etf.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7123 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:17 pm to
Just search for large cap growth ETFs. They're pretty safe. My main ones are SCHG (an ETF) and LGILX (a mutual fund).
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8958 posts
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Just search for large cap growth ETFs. They're pretty safe. My main ones are SCHG (an ETF) and LGILX (a mutual fund).



Cool, Thanks.
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