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Why do Northerners vote so differently in state races vs. presidential races?

Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:23 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164086 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:23 pm
There are now Republican Governors in Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Illinois. States Republicans haven't sniffed since Reagan. Not to mention Iowa, Ohio, Florida, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada.. States won twice by Obama.

Does it all come down to turnout being higher for Presidential races?
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:24 pm to
Yankees are dumb
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57122 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:26 pm to
Local races = spend their money.
National races = spend someone else's money.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68076 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:30 pm to
As one of the resident libs on this board posted recently, the midterm electorate is whiter, wealthier, more informed and better educated than the electorate during presidential elections.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5331 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

As one of the resident libs on this board posted recently, the midterm electorate is whiter, wealthier, more informed and better educated than the electorate during presidential elections.


this and northern states are traditionally pro union and huge donors to the democrats
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

There are now Republican Governors in Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts


As I mentioned in another thread, Baker will be the 5th Republican governor out of the last 6, with current Governor Deval Patrick being the only Dem. Gov. there in the last 24 years . But just try to send a Massachusetts Republican to the House or the Senate .
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3891 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

Local races = spend their money. National races = spend someone else's money.


This
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:58 pm to
im upset that my sinkhole home state of NY is still stuck with that dictator Andrew Cuomo as gov. His anti-gun laws disgust me along with how he does nothing as gov.

So happy I'm not a resident there anymore
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76512 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:03 am to
H W Bush took Illinois, Michigan, Maine, and Maryland.

It's all cyclical.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164086 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:06 am to
quote:

H W Bush took Illinois, Michigan, Maine, and Maryland.

26 years ago.
quote:

It's all cyclical.

It would have cycled back by now.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7999 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:11 am to
I think the Midwest (OH, MI, WI, MO, Iowa, and maybe - just maybe - Illinois) will actually be trending back a bit purpleish-red over the next generation. I live in Illinois and some of the political self-loathing you hear around here is almost funny; people are so sick of what the local status quo here that a change - any change in any direction - is wanted. The unions have been dying a slow death, but it's getting ever closer, and the demographics set up well for the GOP around here.

I think you'll see it somewhat offset by VA, NC, and FL going more purpleish-blue and GA and maybe even Texas going purpleish.

Interestingly, Illinois lost almost 100,000 African-Americans between the 2000 and 2010 censuses. The century-long strangehold that the Democratic party on ethnic blocs (Irish, Polish, Italian, African-American, Hispanic, etc) in Chicago and the resulting massive influence the party had statewide because of this is starting to break, I think.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 12:15 am
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:14 am to
quote:

H W Bush took Illinois, Michigan, Maine, and Maryland.

It's all cyclical.



not even reagan would win states like NY today. NYC is the cesspool that ruins that state.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76512 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:15 am to
quote:

It would have cycled back by now.


Hence GOP gubernatorial take over in Illinois, Maine and Maryland tonight.
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