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Will the Rangers make any moves before the trade deadline?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:51 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:51 am
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:01 am to King of New Orleans
Ron Washington to the street corner to get some coke.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:07 am to King of New Orleans
Their window has closed
Posted on 6/19/14 at 2:17 am to Walt OReilly
They have a 2b or CF available?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:23 am to King of New Orleans
Nope they are done
Posted on 6/19/14 at 8:36 am to King of New Orleans
Doubtful. Just get healthy and see what happens next season.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:02 am to SCUBABlake
...or sell. We have a club option on Rios for a reasonable 13.5 million for 2015 but if someone wanted to give up a nice package for him, I'd consider moving him.
I know one thing I wouldn't want to do is buy and sell of anymore blue chippers. Can't wait to see Gallo in Arlington.
I know one thing I wouldn't want to do is buy and sell of anymore blue chippers. Can't wait to see Gallo in Arlington.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:19 am to papz
Our top prospects are untouchable at this point in time. No reason to move any of them.
Rios might be moved, but he might not bring back a package that is attractive enough for the Rangers to do.
Next year will be interesting, as I believe a middle infielder will be traded (One of Odor, Profar, Sardinas, Andrus, or Rua), most likely for a 3-4 type of pitcher.
Our needs for next year are mainly corner outfield and the back of the rotation. Maybe the DH as well, but Beltre and Fielder will more than likely platoon that role along with various minor leaguers. I always believe that the bullpen can be filled with guys from the minors.
Gallo for '15.
Rios might be moved, but he might not bring back a package that is attractive enough for the Rangers to do.
Next year will be interesting, as I believe a middle infielder will be traded (One of Odor, Profar, Sardinas, Andrus, or Rua), most likely for a 3-4 type of pitcher.
Our needs for next year are mainly corner outfield and the back of the rotation. Maybe the DH as well, but Beltre and Fielder will more than likely platoon that role along with various minor leaguers. I always believe that the bullpen can be filled with guys from the minors.
Gallo for '15.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:46 am to DrVinnyBoombatz
We are definitely stacked with MI prospects. Demeritte looks good and there are others as well. Odor and Profar, if we decided to move one, should net us more than a 3/4 type starter. Sardinas can be kept around as a UTIL guy. It's nice to see Rua sacrifice some power to become a more rounded hitter. He'll probably be included in some sort of package if we decide to move him.
What we do with Rios at the deadline may dictate how we approach next season. We could always move one of those MI guys to the OF or Gallo and make Beltre a 1B. We have a lot of options to consider. Should be a fun group to watch next season.
With that said, we definitely need another arm so we don't have to push Jackson or Gonzalez up before they're ready.
What we do with Rios at the deadline may dictate how we approach next season. We could always move one of those MI guys to the OF or Gallo and make Beltre a 1B. We have a lot of options to consider. Should be a fun group to watch next season.
With that said, we definitely need another arm so we don't have to push Jackson or Gonzalez up before they're ready.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:01 am to papz
The rotation is going to be the number one concern going into next year. If ChiChi keeps up his pace in AA, I could see him starting as the number 4/5 starter next year (he will be 23). Realistically, he will probably start the season in AAA and be an early call-up. From what I've heard, Jackson might be better off as a middle reliever, although it would be awesome if he improved his secondary pitches and became a starter.
I still think they want Gallo to replace Beltre, otherwise they would've made the switch to outfield already. Corner outfield can be found in FA or internally (Choice...if he improves).
First base should be set for next year with Prince. After 2015, we will more than likely be looking for a replacement.
Profar is more than likely the most valuable MI, but I do not see us trading him. Odor has played himself into our 2nd most valuable trade prospect and as much as I love him, there doesn't seem to be a place for him......unless we trade Andrus, which is looking like the most possible scenario.
I still think they want Gallo to replace Beltre, otherwise they would've made the switch to outfield already. Corner outfield can be found in FA or internally (Choice...if he improves).
First base should be set for next year with Prince. After 2015, we will more than likely be looking for a replacement.
Profar is more than likely the most valuable MI, but I do not see us trading him. Odor has played himself into our 2nd most valuable trade prospect and as much as I love him, there doesn't seem to be a place for him......unless we trade Andrus, which is looking like the most possible scenario.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:20 am to DrVinnyBoombatz
I wouldn't discount Jackson. His control has been improving and he's been pitching really well for the past couple of years. I think he can be a solid 3. He may end up as a reliever, but only if he fails as a starter. I actually like Jackson's ceiling better though Chi Chi is the safer bet. I just don't want to push these two like we did with Neil Ramirez.
Gallo is in A ball and drafted as a 3rd baseman. He's still there because we want to know if he can stick. We want Gallo's bat to develop so there's no reason to put added pressure on him in learning a new position. I think he eventually starts learning LF/1B as he gets closer to the majors.
Who knows, we may be looking at a Profar, Andrus, Odor, Beltre INF next season with Fielder locking in full time at bats at DH. That's one hell of a defensive infield.
Gallo is in A ball and drafted as a 3rd baseman. He's still there because we want to know if he can stick. We want Gallo's bat to develop so there's no reason to put added pressure on him in learning a new position. I think he eventually starts learning LF/1B as he gets closer to the majors.
Who knows, we may be looking at a Profar, Andrus, Odor, Beltre INF next season with Fielder locking in full time at bats at DH. That's one hell of a defensive infield.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:37 am to papz
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Gallo is in A ball
He got promoted to Frisco recently
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:46 am to BRUNNIN4
I should have said was. I check his stats daily, typo... my bad.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:47 am to papz
Gallo has been promoted to AA where he is still playing third base. That would put him on track to be a 2015 September call-up. I believe that Gallo has yet to play a single game in the outfield, not saying that he never will, but it looks like he will be our future 3rd baseman.
Chi Chi has much better command of his secondary pitches which means he is ahead of Jackson for a call-up even though they are the same age and level. Jackson has the higher ceiling so I believe that the Rangers will keep him in the minors longer than Chi Chi. I really really want Jackson to become a starter because I think his ceiling is closer to a #2. His stuff can be electric.
Unfortunately, I think this is Beltre's last full season at 3rd. We are going to be seeing a lot more platooning next year. But just having 2 of Profar or Andrus or Odor or Sardinas would make any INF top in defense, which has me excited for the future.
Chi Chi has much better command of his secondary pitches which means he is ahead of Jackson for a call-up even though they are the same age and level. Jackson has the higher ceiling so I believe that the Rangers will keep him in the minors longer than Chi Chi. I really really want Jackson to become a starter because I think his ceiling is closer to a #2. His stuff can be electric.
Unfortunately, I think this is Beltre's last full season at 3rd. We are going to be seeing a lot more platooning next year. But just having 2 of Profar or Andrus or Odor or Sardinas would make any INF top in defense, which has me excited for the future.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:04 am to DrVinnyBoombatz
I think this is a year to reload. The club has a promising future.
Trade Rios if you can and get something decent.
In the offseason, trade one of the middle infielders whether its Profar, Odor, Andrus or Sardi.
And I don't think Beltre is done. Far from it. He's still a great hitter and plays very well at third. The only thing that is an impediment is injuries, but he looks healthy right now.
Tepesch and Martinez are getting valuable experience. Jackson is next, probably in August or September. Chi Chi is probably a 2015 addition depending on how he does in AA.
I like how the future looks. Time to reload.
Trade Rios if you can and get something decent.
In the offseason, trade one of the middle infielders whether its Profar, Odor, Andrus or Sardi.
And I don't think Beltre is done. Far from it. He's still a great hitter and plays very well at third. The only thing that is an impediment is injuries, but he looks healthy right now.
Tepesch and Martinez are getting valuable experience. Jackson is next, probably in August or September. Chi Chi is probably a 2015 addition depending on how he does in AA.
I like how the future looks. Time to reload.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:07 am to DrVinnyBoombatz
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Gallo has been promoted to AA where he is still playing third base. That would put him on track to be a 2015 September call-up. I believe that Gallo has yet to play a single game in the outfield, not saying that he never will, but it looks like he will be our future 3rd baseman.
I think he'll be up earlier than that. I think he'll be up by summer of next season unless he continues to hammer the ball and force his way up even sooner. He's 6'5 and a average fielder... cannon of an arm though. Like I said, as he gets closer, you'll see them trying him out at other positions. Right now all they need him to do is concentrate on hitting. I'm not discounting the fact he could stick there, but if we don't make any moves with Profar/Odor/Andrus, he's probably more likely to become a corner OF/1B.
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Chi Chi has much better command of his secondary pitches which means he is ahead of Jackson for a call-up even though they are the same age and level. Jackson has the higher ceiling so I believe that the Rangers will keep him in the minors longer than Chi Chi. I really really want Jackson to become a starter because I think his ceiling is closer to a #2. His stuff can be electric.
I agree completely.
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Unfortunately, I think this is Beltre's last full season at 3rd. We are going to be seeing a lot more platooning next year. But just having 2 of Profar or Andrus or Odor or Sardinas would make any INF top in defense, which has me excited for the future.
If someone kicked our door down asking for Beltre at the deadline, I'd listen.
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And I don't think Beltre is done. Far from it. He's still a great hitter and plays very well at third. The only thing that is an impediment is injuries, but he looks healthy right now.
He's definitely not done. Starting next season, it's going to be about keeping him healthy and effective for the rest of his career. More maintenance days at 1B, DH, and a few days off here and there. But he could certainly man the position for another year... but I'm not sure if we should allow him to do so.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:10 am to papz
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If someone kicked our door down asking for Beltre at the deadline, I'd listen.
It's one of those things that may need to be done, but I would hate to be the person to do it with how loved Beltre is.
I would love for Beltre to stick around after his playing days and help with Gallo too
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:15 am to GeauxAggie972
In my opinion Beltre is the leader of the team. He's the heart and the soul.
If you trade him, you trade the team's leader. This needs to be a consideration when considering any deal.
But if someone offers something crazy, you may have to pull the trigger.
If you trade him, you trade the team's leader. This needs to be a consideration when considering any deal.
But if someone offers something crazy, you may have to pull the trigger.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:27 am to BigBoyTiger
As much as I love Beltre, the defensive metrics are showing a decline in fielding this year. As it is, his hamstrings seem to be hanging on by a thread. I really do think that he will spend at least half of his games next year as a DH.
And the offer for Beltre would have to be significant for JD to trade him. This isn't anything like trading MY, as Beltre can still be an elite hitter. And Beltre's declining fielding is still way better than MY.
This was a fluke year for injuries. As it is, they are a .500 team with over half of their opening day payroll on the DL. They are an elite team with everyone healthy. No reason to trade away an elite hitter for an average return. I hope.
And the offer for Beltre would have to be significant for JD to trade him. This isn't anything like trading MY, as Beltre can still be an elite hitter. And Beltre's declining fielding is still way better than MY.
This was a fluke year for injuries. As it is, they are a .500 team with over half of their opening day payroll on the DL. They are an elite team with everyone healthy. No reason to trade away an elite hitter for an average return. I hope.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:44 am to BigBoyTiger
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In my opinion Beltre is the leader of the team. He's the heart and the soul.
If you trade him, you trade the team's leader.
I think Elvis is the leader of the team. He's definitely the face of the franchise (featured in most advertising campaigns).
And, with his multi-year deal in place, doubtful anyone takes him in a trade unless the Rangers agree to another A-Rod salary contribution deal (which they can't afford given how much they're paying for Prince and Choo and will be for nearly the next decade).
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