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re: If Rand Paul receives Republican nod and loses to HRC in 2016

Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:14 am to
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:14 am to
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Experience is overrated.

I assume you're referring to Obama.

Remember: he only led for the last few months of the race. He was lucky. Hillary bore the brunt of the attacks as the frontrunner for over a year.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:15 am to
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If Rand Paul receives Republican nod and loses to HRC in 2016
That pretty much ends his quest for higher office, right?
Snowden is going to unload on Hillary. Better pick someone else.







Posted by TN_Tigers
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:15 am to
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HRC is as good as it gets in that regard.


Wasn't she the one that said she wasnt getting out of the primary and cited RFK's assassination as backup to her argument?
Posted by constant cough
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:19 am to
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IMO, he's too green. I like Rand Paul ok and I might consider voting for him, but he's a bit of a loose cannon.

The presidential race is long, long, long. It's less of a contest about ideas as much as it's contest to see who can gaffe the least. HRC is as good as it gets in that regard. She's been the target of the right since the 80s.



You sound scared
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:22 am to
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Paulism




What the hell is this?

Is advocating for small and limited gov't so shocking that doing that is named after the person doing it?
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:27 am to
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You sound scared

Who is more likely to stand up to the scrutiny of a year and a half campaign.?

A 1 term senator from KY (elected in 2011) with no other political experience or a former Secretary of State, senator from New York, a presidential candidate, the first lady of U.S. and Arkansas who has been in the spotlight for 40 years?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:29 am to
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Experience is overrated.

I agree with this 100%, but why do you think so many folks on this board hold Obama's lack os experience against him while giving a pass to Paul and Cruz who will both have less poltical experience in 2016 than Obama had in 2008.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:30 am to
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A 1 term senator from KY (elected in 2011) with no other political experience


And someone who was a regular guest on the Alex Jones show
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:32 am to
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I agree with this 100%, but why do you think so many folks on this board hold Obama's lack os experience against him while giving a pass to Paul and Cruz who will both have less poltical experience in 2016 than Obama had in 2008.

It's kind of like Republicans screaming bloody murder over a healthcare reform bill originally designed by the Heritage Foundation and first implemented by the former GOP nominee for the President of the United States. It's strange.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:34 am to
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And someone who was a regular guest on the Alex Jones show


Shhh...wait till he gets the nomination to trot out those clips.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:39 am to
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Who is more likely to stand up to the scrutiny of a year and a half campaign.?

A 1 term senator from KY (elected in 2011) with no other political experience or a former Secretary of State, senator from New York, a presidential candidate, the first lady of U.S. and Arkansas who has been in the spotlight for 40 years?

I see where you're going, but Paul seems to have improved a great deal as a political pugilist since that Rachel Maddow interview in 2010, he should only get better over the next couple of years.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:45 am to
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A 1 term senator from KY (elected in 2011) with no other political experience or a former Secretary of State, senator from New York, a presidential candidate, the first lady of U.S. and Arkansas who has been in the spotlight for 40 years?



Well the later already lost to a one term senator so...
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:47 am to
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Experience is overrated.


Disagree with you there; especially when that experience is littered with fraud and terrible execution, such as it is with HRC:
- Insider trading scandal that has been somewhat muted but never fully investigated
- Did not do anything significant as a Senator in NY other than plan her run for the presidency
- Absolute shitshow in as Secretary of State

Would still like to see someone that is a former governor, these senators don't know how to balance a budget but given Paul's stances I'd give him a shot at that....
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:48 am to
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A 1 term senator from KY (elected in 2011) with no other political experience or a former Secretary of State, senator from New York, a presidential candidate, the first lady of U.S. and Arkansas who has been in the spotlight for 40 years?


We've seen this movie play out before in 2008 and the half term senator from Illinois still bitchslapped the other candidate that had most of those advantages.

Both Hilary and McCain.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 11:55 am to
I don't see how Rand Paul could lose to Hilary. Hilary comes off shady, and I doubt she can get the nudge in swing states. At least Rand Paul is somewhat consistent. (unlike most R's and D's)

Democrats should be looking for a Gavin Newsom type person to rise up. Maybe one who didn't bang his friend's wife.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:11 pm to
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IMO, he's too green



This fricker voted for Obama twice.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:16 pm to
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IMO, he's too green.


I missed this.

If you voted for Obama even once, you can't say this at all and expect to dodge allegations of hypocrisy.

quote:

see who can gaffe the least. HRC is as good as it gets in that regard.



If Rand can filibuster for 13 straight hours and still manage to keep it on topic for a significant majority of the time without hanging himself, he's got this covered.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:25 pm to
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This fricker voted for Obama twice.

I think he was talking specifically about the likelihood of gaffes of Paul vs Hillary when the bright lights are on.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:31 pm to
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I think he was talking specifically about the likelihood of gaffes of Paul vs Hillary when the bright lights are on.







What difference does it make? - HRC
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:33 pm to
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That pretty much ends his quest for higher office, right?

if Rand Paul can't win in this climate against a skeleton known as HRC, AND after the absolute failure that was the HRC era as SOS and the ACA, then the GOP's quest for higher office has ended
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