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re: I want a TRUE single action revolver
Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:00 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 2/1/13 at 10:00 am to Ace Midnight
Yeah, the Vaquero is so popular it seems like it has always been there. The Vaquero is the older, larger model similar in size to the Super Blackhawk while the New Vaquero is based off the newer mid-size Blackhawk frame.
Here is a gratuitous shot of a not quite stock old-model Blackhawk in .44 Special:
Here is a gratuitous shot of a not quite stock old-model Blackhawk in .44 Special:
This post was edited on 2/3/13 at 7:00 pm
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Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:23 pm to weagle99
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Here is a gratuitous shot of a not quite stock old-model Blackhawk in .44 Special:
I've actually considered carrying a new model Blackhawk in .44 magnum in my car for anti-vehicular use (should SHTF and that become an unfortunate necessity). I'm worried I would enjoy shooting it too much (you know, for familiarization) and that could get very costly.
This post was edited on 2/1/13 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:37 pm to Cold Pizza
I'm usually not a huge fan of unnecessary safties, such as rebounding hammers and cross bolt safties, but the transfer bar I like.
I can safly carry six bullets.
Maybe I'm a pussy, but don't call me no damn liberal.
I can safly carry six bullets.
Maybe I'm a pussy, but don't call me no damn liberal.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:31 pm to Ace Midnight
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I've actually considered carrying a new model Blackhawk in .44 magnum in my car for anti-vehicular use (should SHTF and that become and unfortunate necessity). I'm worried I would enjoy shooting it too much (you know, for familiarization) and that could get very costly.
Revolver rounds are simple to handload and that cuts down on costs over time. The .44 Mag is also a versatile round that can be loaded to many different power levels. I vote you go for it.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:40 pm to weagle99
This is probably a dumb question, but I'm not very versed when it comes to revolvers. I see alot of guys with SA revolvers say they keep an empty cylinder to carry. My question is why? As long as the hammer isnt cocked it won't fire correct?
Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:46 pm to JAB528
my first thought when I saw the title of this thread was Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag...my brother has one he wears on his hip at the ranch...but he's a scaredy cat
Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:54 pm to JAB528
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As long as the hammer isnt cocked it won't fire correct?
This is what the transferbar that the OP doesn't want prevents.
In the event that the hammer gets jarred/hit/bumped/falls on it/whatever, the fireing pin is resting on a live primer connected directly to the hammer.
The transfer bar takes this out of the equation.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:55 pm to upgrade
Ah I got ya. Thanks
Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:55 pm to Cold Pizza
Colt SAA is the most tried and true revolver out there. It is still around for a reason.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 2:56 pm to JAB528
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As long as the hammer isnt cocked it won't fire correct?
Some very old revolvers do not have adequate drop safeties. Depending on the mechanism, dropping such a weapon and applying sufficient force to the hammer could result in an accidental discharge. Therefore, the best practice with any older weapon, regardless of drop safety, is to keep the hammer down on an empty chamber. Newer weapons are safer, but you will have to determine if the particular design of transfer bar, hammer block, whatever form of drop safety, is sufficient for you to confidently carry a SA revolver with a hammer down on a loaded chamber.
I, personally, would carry a New Model Blackhawk or Vaquero with a full cylinder and have no reservations.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:00 pm to Ace Midnight
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I, personally, would carry a New Model Blackhawk or Vaquero with a full cylinder and have no reservations.
I carry my Single Six to capacity. It's basicly a scaled down New Blackhawk. I love that gun!
Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:08 pm to upgrade
I really can't fathom why the OP would not want the transfer bar. I don't see any disadvantage to having one i wouldn't think it would operate any differently and only serve to keep the owner safer. I inherited a new pattern stainless steel ruger black hawk 357 from my grand father but haven't shot it yet.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:20 pm to bayoudude
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I really can't fathom why the OP would not want the transfer bar
I have a new model Single Six with transfer bar.
My dad has the old model Single Six without.
When you cock the hammer on his gun you hear and feel 4 or 5 clicks as you bring it to full cock.
It sounds kinda cool, almost like a movie gun, but I rather have my transfer bar and keep it fully loaded.
Growing up shooting his Single Six was the reason I had to get one for myself.
Ruger states in the owners manual of my Single Six (yes I'm that kind of guy) that they will convert any of their pre-transfer bar guns to New models for free. I would not go that far though.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 3:46 pm to bayoudude
Many people prefer the old Ruger action without the transfer bar for various reasons. Some like the way the action feels when the hammer is cocked, others like the nostalgia. Some like the fact that you have to be more careful and in tune with the gun so as to handle it safely.
Before Ruger added the indexing pawl to the newest guns the chambers on the New Model guns wouldn't readily line up with the loading gate, which was annoying. Even with that, they don't load on half-cock hammer position which some traditionalists don't like. Also, the triggers on the New Model Rugers generally aren't as good.
The safety notches on hammers of Old Model Rugers and Colts and the sears on the triggers of those same guns simply aren't strong enough to be used for safe carry with six rounds (a strong blow will break them off and probably cause a discharge). Carrying the gun with the hammer down on a live round means that the firing pin is resting directly on the primer, a recipe for disaster if the hammer is bumped.
I can't say this enought, always carry these guns with 5 rounds and an empty chamber under the hammer.
Before Ruger added the indexing pawl to the newest guns the chambers on the New Model guns wouldn't readily line up with the loading gate, which was annoying. Even with that, they don't load on half-cock hammer position which some traditionalists don't like. Also, the triggers on the New Model Rugers generally aren't as good.
The safety notches on hammers of Old Model Rugers and Colts and the sears on the triggers of those same guns simply aren't strong enough to be used for safe carry with six rounds (a strong blow will break them off and probably cause a discharge). Carrying the gun with the hammer down on a live round means that the firing pin is resting directly on the primer, a recipe for disaster if the hammer is bumped.
I can't say this enought, always carry these guns with 5 rounds and an empty chamber under the hammer.
This post was edited on 2/1/13 at 4:52 pm
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