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Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:26 pm to lsu1919
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why no screens
They have run screens all year - lots of them.
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or roll outs
They have rolled Max out quite a bit earlier in the year. Other teams have rushed to prevent the left roll out and he has been very poor on rolls to the right.
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O said he wanted the brady/burrow offense, they were just too dumb to realize you need burrow and 2 1st round WR to make it work.
Now this I agree with wholeheartedly.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:50 pm to FreddieMac
Exactly, the routes are just too deep for a suspect O line. Too much time to develop. Also someone needs to show Max where the play clock is so he can look at it and when you slide just past the first down marker you don't get the first down.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:52 pm to Hot Carl
Go back and watch the UCLA game. It has been obvious from the very beginning that Max is much more effective with five men protecting and a spread out formation. He picks up the reads better and knows his hot route assignment. The more guys involved in protection means there are less guys involved in the route. If the route is slow to develop Max is a dead duck. Most of our sacks have come on six or seven protections. Max can I’d the blitz and get rid of the ball or take off a lot better when 5 block and 5 are in the route.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:56 pm to Hot Carl
Peetz is a clown, Frost gonna be the second coach axed for hiring that fraud
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:15 pm to Big4SALTbro
Terrible hire by O, probably his worst of all the bad assistants he hired. Perhaps O's biggest fault was his inability to hire assistants that made any impact!
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:25 pm to SammyTiger
Max is a tough kid. He continuously showed that he was not afraid. To a fault.
I'm real happy for him that his ability to stand there knowing he was going to get popped paid off for him and the team on that last play.
All that being said, he really hasn't developed pocket presence, and his slow delivery just makes him an easy target. He can't make people miss.
No defense has had to account for him as a ball carrier and it shows. On rollouts with receivers deep, he would run 35 yards to gain 5. 300lb lineman had incredible closing speed on him
When we would max protect to give our receivers more time to go downfield, the TEs and RBs we kept in only attracted attention, giving the defender a closer distance to cover, b/c our TEs and RBs were revolving doors.
I'm real happy for him that his ability to stand there knowing he was going to get popped paid off for him and the team on that last play.
All that being said, he really hasn't developed pocket presence, and his slow delivery just makes him an easy target. He can't make people miss.
No defense has had to account for him as a ball carrier and it shows. On rollouts with receivers deep, he would run 35 yards to gain 5. 300lb lineman had incredible closing speed on him
When we would max protect to give our receivers more time to go downfield, the TEs and RBs we kept in only attracted attention, giving the defender a closer distance to cover, b/c our TEs and RBs were revolving doors.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:33 pm to Hot Carl
Going into the A&M game, LSU running backs had a total of 8 receptions. Clyde had 55 receptions in 2019.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:46 pm to eod
Steve E is viewed positively thru purple and gold glasses. Super nice guy. Loves LSU and is very loyal. People just like Steve and deservedly so.
Objectively as an OC he is at best average. Canada and Peetz were abysmal as LSU OCs. Cam Cameron may have been even worse. Was Steve E better than those 3? Of course.
Was he anywhere near Joe Brady's creativity / feel for calling plays? Not even close. Is Joe Brady upper tier in college? Absolutely. But, there are at least 20 OCs in college football today that are way better than Steve E every was. Giving Joe Brady credit doesn't diminish Steve E. Joe Brady is doing just fine as an OC in the NFL without Slinger in the booth.
Objectively as an OC he is at best average. Canada and Peetz were abysmal as LSU OCs. Cam Cameron may have been even worse. Was Steve E better than those 3? Of course.
Was he anywhere near Joe Brady's creativity / feel for calling plays? Not even close. Is Joe Brady upper tier in college? Absolutely. But, there are at least 20 OCs in college football today that are way better than Steve E every was. Giving Joe Brady credit doesn't diminish Steve E. Joe Brady is doing just fine as an OC in the NFL without Slinger in the booth.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:52 pm to burke985
Max is currently number 3 on the list for season TD passes and number 6 on the list for season passing yards with one game to go
He will probably finish the season at number 2 for TD passes and 4 for yards
He will probably finish the season at number 2 for TD passes and 4 for yards
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:04 pm to bayou85
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His 2021 Passing Yards for the season is currently 7th all time at LSU and His Pass TDs is 4th All time in a season.
Considering the we just went away from run heavy offenses this isnt saying much. He has one less td than JaMarcus but he is no where near the college qb that JR was. Max is barely completing 60% of his passes. In sec play he is completing less than 58% of his passes. I hope he can get better but I don't see him leading lsu to any type of hardware
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:08 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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Max is currently number 3 on the list for season TD passes and number 6 on the list for season passing yards with one game to go
And had over 58% completion just 4 times this year
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:15 pm to IAHTiger
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Joe Brady is doing just fine as an OC in the NFL without Slinger in the booth.
Oh, I beg to differ 100%. Brady is floundering and looks similar to Pootz at times with his asinine calls. Neither of them have any idea how to adjust to what the D is doing, so if they get knocked off the gameplan, then it is curtains.
Brady's inadequacies were shielded by E's experience. They both complemented each other. Brady will not be in Carolina next year and may not get another OC shot until he proves himself again.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:23 pm to lsu1919
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O said he wanted the brady/burrow offense, they were just too dumb to realize you need burrow and 2 1st round WR to make it work.
Not necessarily, that is a bit of a stretch to say.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:23 pm to 33inNC
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E's experience.
I do not think Brady was calling as many plays as people think. E was calling most of those plays.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:24 pm to 33inNC
You’re giving E a lot of credit for stuff he hasn’t shown outside 2019
He wasn’t a great game planner. He didn’t make great in game adjustments in 2018 or 2020.
He wasn’t great in 2016. We basically just ran all over shitty run defenses with 3 NFL RBs.
He wasn’t a great game planner. He didn’t make great in game adjustments in 2018 or 2020.
He wasn’t great in 2016. We basically just ran all over shitty run defenses with 3 NFL RBs.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:25 pm to Tangineck
And to add to Tangineck. Plus a 2 with Marshall 1 with Helare. A talented TE in Moss with a good off line. Pretty decent def too!!
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:27 pm to FreddieMac
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I do not think Brady was calling as many plays as people think. E was calling most of those plays.
Yes, I agree. Brady was free to "dial up" plays while E did the dirty work of keeping the game in flow. People don't realize this and think Brady is some kind of play calling God.
In almost 2 years in the NFL, Brady has not shown that he can do that and seems to have regressed. He cannot scheme to protect a QB behind a very bad OL, and absolutely refuses to call plays that his team can be successful at.
I've read on more than one occasion this year that DB's know what routes are being run and pretty much run them for the WR's. Watch the Panthers and you'll see some similarities to what Pootz has done all year.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:27 pm to Hot Carl
Yeah Peetz is garbage but Max did himself no favors. If you could go look at every LSU offensive pass play this season you'd see Max miss at least 3 touchdowns a game and numerous open receivers.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:32 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re giving E a lot of credit for stuff he hasn’t shown outside 2019
He wasn’t a great game planner. He didn’t make great in game adjustments in 2018 or 2020.
He wasn’t great in 2016. We basically just ran all over shitty run defenses with 3 NFL RBs.
E was an average OC who was very solid in some areas. He deserves a ton of credit that he does not receive due to everyone thinking it was all Brady.
No one wants to not give Brady any credit, as he seemed to be the final piece on the coaching staff to put the offense in elite category, but the past 2 years have shown that even Brady is not able to do it alone. It was a complete team effort (elite players needed) and if you take one piece out, you don't get 2019.
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