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re: Verdict reached in Arbery trial

Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261538 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:43 pm to
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They again stated they didn't have any knowledge the deceased had done anything felonious

They just assumed he was stealing and went after him. They were the clear aggressors, Arbury was the one who attempted to defend himself and had every right to do it.

Arbury could have very well been casing, but there is no evidence of him stealing anything, the Perps had nothing on him and went full Barney Fife.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50714 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:44 pm to
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is it his running shoes being worn that make it so unbelievable to you? Or is it that his shorts had too many pockets?



This may be hard for you to believe, but most people don't have multiple different pairs of tennis shoes.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30276 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:48 pm to
I expect my joggers to look like Bruce Jenner circa 1976.
Posted by Steelboy84
Member since Sep 2021
765 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
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You are an absolute trash poster.


He's also a troll.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50714 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
There was absolutely no doubt that he wasn't there for good reasons. These guys were for sure guilty.

However, if the left gets their way about "community policing," things like this will happen regularly.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29006 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Never said it did. I said it had something to do with not a single poster who's slinging around insults answering the question of what was more likely - Arbery is a jogger or he was there trying to steal shite. 80% of the posters in this thread have a significant reading comprehension problem.


As a real “jogger” my main frustration is the running community acting like he was shot out on a run and that black men can’t go for a jog without being harassed by racist white people.

The virtue signaling circle jerk in the running community is my issue.

I agree with this verdict and Rittenhouse.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261538 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:55 pm to
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As a real “jogger” my main frustration is the running community acting like he was shot out on a run and that black men can’t go for a jog without being harassed by racist white people.


The left is mentally ill.
I find it hard to try to be rational with them.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:56 pm to
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No one has answered my question as to what was more likely because they know the jogger narrative is media bullshite, but they also don't want to admit it because they think they're admitting they were wrong.


You’re high af right now.

He wasn’t jogging.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50714 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:58 pm to
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running community


Any community that pretends to be non-partisan and welcoming to all will inevitably be overrun and controlled by leftists.
Posted by cardee2003
Baton Rouge/Tacoma,WA
Member since Jan 2009
2632 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:00 pm to
Ok, let's blame it on politics not the fact that the 3 of them was guilty as heck
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21784 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:00 pm to
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Even if you can separate the two sentences and not read them in light of one another (which the law usually requires), suspicion under this language requires at least some knowledge that something felonious took place for the suspicion to be reasonable and probable.


The second sentence modifies the first.

You can attempt a citizens arrest if the offense was committed in your presence or immediate knowledge.

If that offense is a felony, then you don't need it to have been committed in your presence or immediate knowledge. Reasonable and probably grounds of suspicion is enough.

Entering property with the intent to steal is a felony in GA.

Hence my question, which was more likely? That Arbery is a jogger or he was there trying to steal stuff?
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30276 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:01 pm to
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There was absolutely no doubt that he wasn't there for good reasons.

Probably, but as I'm sure we agree, supposition and speculation don't much fly in criminal courts of law. But point taken.

That said though, I can recall back in high school, during last hour P.E. when jogging essentially a cross country practice route was required, half the people in those classes were wearing very much similar to what Arbery was wearing in this instance. Hell I may've even gone with shorts, tshirt and redwing boots. Lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261538 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:02 pm to
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Entering property with the intent to steal is a felony in GA.



No evidence of this. Which is why they are going to jail for a long time. Good riddance.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:03 pm to
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The second sentence modifies the first. You can attempt a citizens arrest if the offense was committed in your presence or immediate knowledge.


You’re still wrong. And you’ve been told you’re wrong. Yet you insist on being just absofrickinglutely stupid about it. It’s wild to watch.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261538 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:04 pm to
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It’s wild to watch.



Its insanity.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:05 pm to
Just know that the judge jury prosecution and defense all disagree with your imaginary situation. No one argued what you say. None of them said they knew of AA doing anything wrong when they initiated confrontation. No matter what you say there are no facts backing your defense
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21784 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:07 pm to
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You’re still wrong. And you’ve been told you’re wrong. Yet you insist on being just absofrickinglutely stupid about it. It’s wild to watch.


Here's the law again:

"A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape,a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds for suspicion."

If the offense was committed in your presence, why would you also need "reasonable and probable grounds for suspicion" if that offense was a felony?
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Not good for the father and son duo, probably for the 3rd driver as well.


I don't know if he was given the opportunity, but the third guy was a fricking idiot if he refused to take a plea in return for testimony against the father/son.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111608 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:10 pm to
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A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.


This is a sentence by itself. It means something. You don’t want to even read it, you dumb fricking count.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

I agree with this verdict and Rittenhouse.


Agreed.
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