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re: MLB Off-Season Thread: Story to Red Sox, Solar to Marlins

Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:04 pm to
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Harper, Soto, Tatis Jr, Crawford, and Turner top 5
Riley finished 7th, Freeman 9th

I have no issue w/Bryce winning it. He was the sole reason Philly was even a threat to the Braves. But the fact that Soto finished 2nd and Riley and Freddie finished as low as they did is more proof that the majority of baseball writers(and fans) are absolute clueless morons.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 6:06 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 6:17 pm to
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I have no issue w/Bryce winning it




I sense a thread bump coming now
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 4:33 pm to
There is no criteria outside of made up "metrics" to have Crawford and Turner ahead of Riley, or even Freeman. I don't think the metrics even like Crawford, defensively, and if his defense isn't putting him over Riley, he certainly doesn't have the offensive numbers. Turner is a great hitter and solid defender, but he's not a big time run producer. It just goes to show how "WAR" is not based on anything objective. The fact that anyone would use that as their main criteria is criminal.

We have not seen where that stat has previously influenced the writers nearly as much as it does with pundits. And I said I expected Riley to finish third because writers would value his overall production and defense, and fact that he played on a winning team. I also thought he deserved to be ahead of Tatis because he was NOT available for more than a month worth of games. But I didn't expect he would pass Tatis, because people are convinced he's the greatest thing ever, even if he's not playing a game.

Well, some guy said I wouldn't be back here if I turned out to be wrong. But here I am. Not sure why this guy thought I would be afraid of being wrong, but my opinion, which was based on historical process for how these awards go, seemed to really bother him that day. This is a very disappointing shift that shows the clueless mob has infected another aspect of baseball.
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