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re: Adding crawfish to supplement a pond

Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:47 am to
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:47 am to
If you are serious about doing this right the first time, I recommend you read this Managing Mississippi Ponds and Small Lakes and follow the stocking and management recommendations. All southern states have a comparable pond manual and they are all going to provide you the same recommendations - all based on research at Auburn University developed decades ago.

First, avoid stocking hybrid bluegill, they don’t breed true in later generations, stick with copper nose bluegill and redear sunfish (shellcrackers), in a 80:20/70:30 ratio. You can stock them now.

Do not stock black perch, white perch (= crappie/sac-a-lait) at all.

Stock largemouth bass next spring, May or so.

If you want some additional variety you can stock 100 channel catfish fingerlings per acre this winter.

Ideally I’d recommend you drain the pond first to kill any fish population that might in it. I’m assuming this likely not possible, and I’ll just assume from your description there is for all practical purposes no existing fish population in the pond.

Though you can add crawfish and it won’t hurt anything, I don’t think it will of any benefit.

If you, or your uncle, don’t follow tried and true small pond stocking and management recommendations developed by southern Land Grant universities that have been around for 70+ years you are likely going to very disappointed in the results 3 years down the road.

The pond doesn’t need to be any deeper than 7 feet. The deeper the pond the greater the risk of catastrophic kills down the road in late summer/early fall from oxygen depletion.

Again, I can’t emphasize this enough, read the manual, follow the recommendations.
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Again, I can’t emphasize this enough, read the manual, follow the recommendations


Yea we pretty much fricked it up and I wasn’t happy about perch being put in or bass this early. Hybrid bream were what I was recommended. I’ve read coppernosw have to constantly be stocked. I was gonna wait till next spring to stock base but uncle did otherwise. I agree it wasn’t done right. No way to drain pond thou
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29345 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Do not stock black perch, white perch (= crappie/sac-a-lait) at all.


I don't think this should be taken as a blanket statement.

We have had success stocking black crappie in our pond. Even though there is some structure in the pond, they either don't reproduce or the bream and bass must eat all the fry. Once we stock them we catch them over the next few years until they are gone. So, every few years we just restock some more.

Every pond is different and every pond will need continual monitoring. We have bass, bream, black crappie and catfish. You have to monitor the populations every year. Not seeing catfish feeding or catching any, add more bass. Not catching any brean or the ones you do are huge + too many small bass then you start keeping all the bass that will bite and maybe supplement the bream population.
Posted by PVillePandG
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2007
749 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:47 pm to
This guy gets it...He answered every one of your concerns correctly.
1) Drain pond if possible..This is done to ensure hardy and tolerant bloodlines of the stocked fish aren't compromised by wild diseases of native species
2) Never stock hybrid species. Any true hybrid will be genetically sterile..
3) Copper Nosed Bluegill - correct
4) Never stock Black or White Crappie..Your pond isn't big enough for them. They are avid spawners and even bigger eaters. Your pond would be stunted if you did
5) Stock according to pre-determined ratios...There are ratios for a reason. They know the number based on hectares of what best promotes trophy growth.
6) If you want variety stock a defined amount of channel cat. Exactly right. Why? Because the eggs of channel cat need running water to hatch. They will not hatch in a pond; therefore, the Channel Cat will not be competing for food.
7) If it were me I would first stock it with mosquito fish (Gambula Rostrata)..allow to sit for a period of time then stock with current state ratios
8) Crawfish also need rising and falling water to reproduce. Females lay eggs when the water has dried above and they are in their small pools below surface in hopes that when it floods she can carry them to the surface waters to grow. If you put crawfish in they would feed your fish once. Waste
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