re: What's with this boards beef with BMW's?

I only buy cars manufactured in very specific Japanese ZIP codes.

Just don't own it out of warranty. Also GL on th depreciation.

It's because luxury cars are overrated now. You can get a "non-luxury" brand car that has all of the same features as a luxury brand, but is cheaper to own and will last longer.

They are POS cars, my mom had one… granted it lasted about 18 years but stupid stuff broke on it all the time and it cost a fortune to fix

I was thinking about getting a used M series because it was only a couple years old and the same price as the ES-350 F-Sport I was looking at new. Similar luxury styling with much better performance. So I check out the reviews.

Car and Driver was fawning over this car like it was the best thing to come out in 20 years. Hmm ok, looks like it could be a winner. Then I keep reading and the summary went something like this:

“We experienced almost no issues with the vehicle during our 30k mile test drive. We did have to stop at ~ 10k miles at a dealership and have a sensor replaced which ran ~ $800, and after 23k miles (something broke) which was another $1.2k. Cost of an oil change (every 10k miles) runs about $400 at the dealership.”

Uhh, no thanks…

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They are extremely unreliable after the first few years of ownership, and are expensive as hell to repair and get parts for

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When I was growing up, my dad was a big fan of older BMWs (therefore I was too). We had a late 70s 2002, a handful of late 80s E30 3 series, and one 91 5 series over the years. He loved finding them in the classifieds, working on them, and giving them to my siblings and I.

He eventually bought a brand new Bimmer for his everyday driver, and it ended up having a very expensive maintenance issue pop up almost the minute after the 4/50k manufacturer warranty expired. He was so irate that he dumped it immediately and switched to Lexus. Completely turned him off BMW.

Focke-Wulf Fw 190 used twin-row BMW 801 radial engines.

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Because they do not have blinkers.

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Funny because it’s true.

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But they're Toyotas and Hondas.

I always find these threads on the OT funny. They are very much akin to the "I cut my own grass threads", where people think they're demonstrating moral superiority by spending less money than others.

While I don't have a BMW, I do have an "expensive" car that I got for various reasons of my own choosing (e.g., styling and performance). Yes, it costs more to obtain and maintain than a Toyota, Honda, Acura or Lexus. I'm fine with that for right now.

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I highly doubt any here down talking BMW, has ever owned one. Their argument is akin to someone talking shite about someone's choice to buy name brand clothing, instead of just buying pants and shirts from Walmart. I mean, afterall, they both do the same thing, amirite?

Plastic parts. My biggest beef.