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re: What’s the deal with the 2019 bashing all of a sudden?

Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:54 pm to
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If he had so little to do with the success of that season then why does he have so much to do with the failure of last season or this first game?


Aranda was hired by the Miles staff.
Brady was found by Ensminger, O admits.

We lost both of those. He replaces them with Linehan and Pelini. He fails to interview Pelini, O admits. They both suck.

He strikes out on like 4 DC choices and settles on Jones and then Peetz because they’re recommended by the guys who had success that he didn’t find.

BilJ put it best… Orgeron is like an idiot teen in chemistry who fricks around when the chemicals and makes something but he’s stupid so he can’t recreate it.

Ask Orgeron the intricacies of “the Joe Brady offense” and his response is “get the ball to playmakers in space”. He has no idea what he’s doing because, again, he’s a low IQ, all emotion idiot.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:54 pm to
They won 10 games in 2018 and were a knee down from 11.

They lost over half of the team, almost all the coaches, and no practices heading into 2020 and the bad hires made it a disaster. So now we’re starting from scratch this offseason with an entire new offense and defense.

We looked really bad, on the road across the country, the week one of the worst storm that’s ever hit the US lands, to a team literally full of seniors.

I also think the talent on this team isn’t really up to standards either and don’t know much anyone has accepted that yet.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21789 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:55 pm to
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If he had so little to do with the success of that season then why does he have so much to do with the failure of last season or this first game?



He was rewarded handsomely by the powers that be for that season.

He’ll be held accountable by them for subsequent seasons as well, as he should.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:57 pm to
You know what’s great ?


All the loyalists trying to minimize the terrible product we saw Saturday and all of 2020 can keep bringing up the one outlier season and that’s fine. 2019 was great.

But guess what?

Orgeron is done. He will be fired within a matter of a couple of months. It’s over for him.

By mid November. Bookmark it if you want. I’ll be here.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:58 pm to
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Orgeron is done


What’s really funny, is in ten years no one will talk about Orgeron when discussing 2019.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:59 pm to
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They won 10 games in 2018 and were a knee down from 11.



We also had Joe Burrow on the field and Dave Aranda on the sideline.

What’s happened since the 2 of them left?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:59 pm to
Very simple. He did not hire Raymond, Aranda, ensminger, etc. they were already on staff when miles was hired.

Every coach that has left, he replaced them with a worse coach. The strongest part of our team currently is db’s, a coach he didn’t hire.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19748 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:01 pm to
Larry Coker was handed a loaded team at Miami from Davis and won the natty the year after Davis left. Came close the following year and then downhill after that. So I don't get the Coker comparison. Ed's greatest season was a few years post Miles and Miles was fired for not getting it done. So if you want to compare to Chiz I think that's more comparable.
Posted by Tigerinasia
Natchitoches
Member since Jan 2008
1706 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:06 pm to
LSU is not a one hit wonder. 3 championships in 20 years. No one but the team that must not be spoken has more. Maybe O is a one hit wonder. We’ll see soon enough. The coo coo takes on here after one game this season is typical LSU fan Catastrophe Syndrome.

Saban named it because LSU fans (and fans in general) react with over emotion after one game. They look at the past as if it means the future is certain. Muh 2020 record. Muh Ole Miss. Muh Les Miles. Etc etc.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:09 pm to
And I don’t disagree. I’m coming off as an Orgeron defender, and I guess I sort of am. If he gets fired this year for the results on the field in 2021 that won’t bother me.

It’s frankly just been the ohhh 2019, he was barely even a reason they did anything that year I mean cmon man. If you’re giving all the blame for what’s happening now you have to give the credit for what he did then.
Posted by colbyjackcheese
S'port
Member since Aug 2018
580 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:09 pm to
Because Orgerons the head coach who makes dang near Saban's salary. He said he would bring in the best cordinators and that hasn't happened. He said he would build a consistent championship program, again this hasn't happened.
Posted by SamtheSham
In a greenside bunker
Member since Nov 2018
492 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

If he had so little to do with the success of that season then why does he have so much to do with the failure of last season or this first game?


Because he DID have so little to do with 2019.

quote:

We looked really bad, on the road across the country, the week one of the worst storm that’s ever hit the US lands, to a team literally full of seniors.


I guess that explains why Tulane looked like shite.

quote:

I also think the talent on this team isn’t really up to standards either and don’t know much anyone has accepted that yet.



So after 3 straight years of top 5 classes the talent isn't up to standard. Yeah, I guess if you're talking about Bama that's true.

This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:20 pm to
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It’s frankly just been the ohhh 2019, he was barely even a reason they did anything that year


Ok, give him all of 2018-2019. His record outside of that is 20-12
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20735 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

You don’t just stumble into the greatest season in the history of the sport on accident.


But yet, that’s exactly what happened.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18188 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:24 pm to
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You don’t just stumble into the greatest season in the history of the sport on accident.
Gene Chizik and Larry Coker say hi.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

One hit wonder”
“Yeah but Burrow/Joe Brady”


quote:

revisionist history


I don’t think you know what this means. Orgeron has shown he’s incapable of running a successful program without Aranda, Brady, and Burrow driving the bus.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18188 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

They lost over half of the team, almost all the coaches, and no practices heading into 2020 and the bad hires made it a disaster. So now we’re starting from scratch this offseason with an entire new offense and defense.

We looked really bad, on the road across the country, the week one of the worst storm that’s ever hit the US lands, to a team literally full of seniors.

I also think the talent on this team isn’t really up to standards either and don’t know much anyone has accepted that yet.
there’s a whole truckload of excuses there.

You think Bama makes those excuses? Clemson? Ohio State?

Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54633 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

e week one of the worst storm that’s ever hit the US lands, to
why did tulane look so good?
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

I also think the talent on this team isn’t really up to standards either and don’t know much anyone has accepted that yet.



And who’s fault would that be exactly?

quote:

They lost over half of the team, almost all the coaches, and no practices heading into 2020 and the bad hires made it a disaster. So now we’re starting from scratch this offseason with an entire new offense and defense.

We looked really bad, on the road across the country, the week one of the worst storm that’s ever hit the US lands, to a team literally full of seniors.


The excuse making is pathetic
Posted by Leopard7
Mars
Member since Jul 2018
272 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:35 pm to
We have so many Mensa candidates as fans. They are all smarter than the coach.
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