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re: Why were we ever in Afghanistan?

Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:02 pm to
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ISIS spawned from the War in Iraq

That's the whole point. Our purpose is to destabilize the region to justify our permanent presence there. Anyone who was semi-literate in Middle Eastern history could have predicted what would happen to Iraq if Saddam was toppled.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:06 pm to
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ISIS is who claimed the bombing in Kabul

ISIS is who kept the fires stoked in Syria

ISIS is a fricking de facto paid mercenary wing of the CIA

Stop yelling about shite you don't understand


I understand, but this started with the War in Iraq, not Afghanistan. They’re in Afghanistan now, but without Iraq, there is no ISIS.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:07 pm to
Spot on
Posted by Cincinnati Tiigre
Cincinnati
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:08 pm to
What was the footprint area of the tower (I.e. a single floor)? You think a 300,000+lb plane loaded with 20,000 gallons of fuel impacting horizontally at 500+ kts can’t create a nearly uniform heat source over that entire area despite the fact that it only impacted “one side”?
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:09 pm to
We created ISIS dude


Obama and McCain and Hillary
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:09 pm to
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Why were we ever in Afghanistan?



Because 19 Saudi Arabians flew 2 planes into the World Trade Center Towers. An attack planned by their Saudi Arabian leader.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:16 pm to
And we sure know who is Saudi Arabia's BFF over there
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:18 pm to
Nation building...

I think The aussie toe-head said it best.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:19 pm to
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We created ISIS dude


Obama and McCain and Hillary


Can you read? I agree with you, it just wasn’t created by Afghanistan. I think if 9/11 didn’t happen, we’d invade Iraq anyway even if it was 2 years later and still create ISIS.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:21 pm to
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And we sure know who is Saudi Arabia's BFF over there

Bin Laden's brother was at a Carlyle Group meeting in DC with Daddy Bush on 9/11. But yeah, we want to end terrorism lol.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Bin Laden's brother was at a Carlyle Group meeting in DC with Daddy Bush on 9/11. But yeah, we want to end terrorism lol.


To be fair, Bin Laden has a shite ton of siblings. When people bring up Noor Bin Laden saying that even Bin Laden’s niece agrees with us, Osama has like 200+ nephews and nieces. There’s going to be a black sheep.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:29 pm to
They vacationed together
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36297 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:31 pm to
Ok. The same people parroting the Russia scare had zero problem with the Bush and Clinton families doing business with the family of the world's most wanted terrorist who allegedly masterminded the attack that killed 3,000 Americans. There's a reason 99% of Americans don't know squat about ties between the Bin Laden family and the Bush family.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109392 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:36 pm to
Yeah, the Bin Ladens are the second richest family in Saudi Arabia, which probably puts them in the ten richest families in the world. I understand the Bin Laden construction fortune, and it’s why we never blamed Saudi Arabia for 9/11 when we should have.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:40 pm to
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it’s why we never blamed Saudi Arabia for 9/11 when we should have.




That’s not why. And we’ve done more than not blame. We actively encouraged them to build mosques and spread the Wahhabi bullshite, and a whole lot more. We created the Iran boogeyman too out of it. It’s all so deeply retarded.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109392 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:43 pm to
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That’s not why. And we’ve done more than not blame. We actively encouraged them to build mosques and spread the Wahhabi bullshite, and a whole lot more. We created the Iran boogeyman too out of it. It’s all so deeply retarded.


I agree with all this, but that’s part of the reason even if it isn’t the primary reason.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted by AggieExile
San Antonio, Texas
Member since Oct 2020
554 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:49 pm to
You just told me I "love seeing kids die" in Afghanistan. You said this after I told you I spent 2 years down range.


I guess I'm kind of speechless. I can only assume you are so sick with grief and whiskey that you have forgotten yourself.


I won't forget.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:55 pm to
Your tough guy act doesn't mean your reading comprehension is on a decent level


I said I don't support sending kids to die in wars for fricking money profit and I don't agree with anyone who sides up with the chickenhawks on that

So stop agreeing with them

We should not have fricking been there

You should not have fricking been there
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:59 pm to
We first arrived because the Taliban was giving safe harbor to Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. We never left because it was making the MIC rich.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 8:00 pm to
And also, again, in other words, you deciding to join the military doesn't justify our govt stealing money from the tax payers of this nation

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