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re: My 16 year old daughter has covid.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:29 pm to Blue_Rocky
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:29 pm to Blue_Rocky
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Cool story.
From what.........to what.
Well, it depends on which death rate your talking about. The death rate from covid? Or the death rate of generally being alive? And it depends on over what period of time.
But, in about 180,000 people in randomized clinical peer reviewed studies, over a 6 mont period;
About 1% of the people who got placebo died. And about .15% of the people who got the vaccine died.
So it reduced the general rate of death by about 85%. That's an amalgamation of multiple studies over multiple vaccines.
But it's statistical proof across multiple studies that vaccines prevent death.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:31 pm to No Colors
I think his point is that the death rate is exceptionally low overall.
So while reducing the rate of death by 85% is a good thing, 85% of a very small number is a very very small number.
So while reducing the rate of death by 85% is a good thing, 85% of a very small number is a very very small number.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:33 pm to No Colors
quote:I was referring to the rate from COVID. My point being that the 85% number is completely useless without knowing from what to what.
Well, it depends on which death rate your talking about. The death rate from covid? Or the death rate of generally being alive? And it depends on over what period of time.
For example. If you told me it went from 1 in a trillion to .15 in a trillion, I wouldn't give 2 fricks(extreme example for the purposes of illustration)
quote:This is an odd number. Do you mean died if they got COVID, or died at all?
About 1% of the people who got placebo died. And about .15% of the people who got the vaccine died.
quote:Well, I never argued differently. But, you still didn't really answer the question. Moreover, a general answer to the question is also somewhat useless because the risk of death for a 70 year old is exponentially higher than for a 30 year old. Which is why I would probably recommend a 70 year old get the vaccine. The difference (from what to what) is far larger.
But it's statistical proof across multiple studies that vaccines prevent death.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:36 pm to No Colors
I don't see the point of arguing constantly over the vaccination. It's like buying a gun, if you want one buy one. If you don't like guns, don't buy one. Pretty simple.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:49 pm to No Colors
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So it reduced the general rate of death by about 85%.
The people telling you this have been lying and manipulating data from jump street ...try again.
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