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Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:22 am to
Posted by Navtiger1
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 5:22 am to
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I'm pretty sure the late-first and early-second century Christians would have disagreed with you had they lived to see the fourth and fifth centuries. St. John the Evangelist's entire Apocalypse (aka Revelation) was likely centered on the promise of the Fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of Christianity.


But Rome didn't fall, it adopted Christianity and rolled right on. Rome adopted Christianity in 307 and the West didn't fall for another 170 years. The East rolled on until 1453.

There have been plenty of "Christian" empires that rose and fell since Rome. The Holy Roman empire, Spain, France (twice), Austria-Hungarian empire, Prussian, British Empire, etc. The map is littered with crumbled states and changed governments many devolved into anarchy, murder and chose.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:54 am to
Just bumping for the morning crew
Posted by goodgrin
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 2:08 pm to
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But Rome didn't fall, it adopted Christianity and rolled right on. Rome adopted Christianity in 307 and the West didn't fall for another 170 years. The East rolled on until 1453.


Rome didn't adopt Christianity, but created the Catholic religion with the seat of power and leadership in Rome. The Caesars knew they were losing influence and power in their failing empire and used the ruse of religion to hold onto power. Constantinople became the first "Pope", not Peter.
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