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Protecting myself and my business - camera question

Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted by meAnon
Member since Feb 2021
32 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:38 pm
I'm trying to think through ways of protecting myself from false claims of harassment. I don't want to find myself in a my word against their's situation.

The easiest way seems to be just having a camera in my office and making sure that everyone knows its on and recording.....

The other part is protecting confidentiality of sensitive topics....

I don't know-just looking for some suggestions i guess.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2723 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:55 pm to
What sparked this inquiry?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30604 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:05 pm to
That you Cuomo?
Posted by meAnon
Member since Feb 2021
32 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:09 pm to
I'm about to be changing offices and jobs where leaving my door open all the time is not an option.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3121 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:29 pm to
Is having a third party present an option?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35677 posts
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Protecting myself and my business


quote:

I'm about to be changing offices and jobs


Which is it? Do you have a business or a job? You've raised an odd question. If your style leads to these possibilities then you need to take a hard look at yourself.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39139 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:40 am to
quote:

I don't know-just looking for some suggestions i guess

don’t stare at her tits
don’t touch her in any way
don’t make small talk or ask about her personal life
don’t stare at her tits
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12986 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 7:58 am to
Just “”don’t stare at her tits” or “change your style” way over simplifies this issue. Harassment allegations don’t have to be valid to ruin you now. I understand the OP’s concern. I don’t think you have to run a camera in your private office 24/7 though. If you have a camera in the hallway or entry to the office you don’t have to tell people it’s filming because they have no expectation of privacy in a public hallway. If someone alleges an assault that is good evidence that they did not act like they had been assaulted leaving your office. I don’t think there is any real protection for the common allegations today like “I felt uncomfortable” when nothing likely actually happened. You also basically can’t be friends with any female coworkers if you want to protect yourself from allegations so no texts and only basic boring emails.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39139 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:13 am to
also, don’t hire Maggie gyllenhall

Posted by meAnon
Member since Feb 2021
32 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Drizzt


Thank you for actually being able to think critically and understand what the simpletons who probably work in an office with 5 dudes evidently don't.

There are actually manipulative, malicious people in the world and in my company (not business, because the difference between the two is obviously incredibly important for context in this situation).
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7907 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:41 am to
You might want to run it by a supervisor before installing cameras. Some places don't let you hammer shite into the walls. You probably would want to run it by HR as well. They will likely want to ask you a bunch of questions about your motivations.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6474 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 9:06 am to
What kind of business are you in?? Lot of good looking females?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35677 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:38 am to
This simpleton understands that the way I conduct myself in all phases of business puts me in a positive light and would raise grave doubts over anyone that tried to pull what you're worried about.

This simpleton also owns the company and would be much more at risk than you could ever be as an employee. IOW, get off your fricking high horse. You aren't that special.

ETA: The way you conduct yourself outside of the office goes a long way to protect yourself inside closed doors.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by meAnon
Member since Feb 2021
32 posts
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

get off your fricking high horse. You aren't that special.


Calm down simpleton. I asked a simple question and your answer revealed a pretty narrow minded scope of reality. I guess you can't fathom a world where a person might be responsible for 400 people, a handful of which are not trustworthy even on their best day, yet they remain untouchable in the work environment.

It has absolutely zero to do with the way I conduct myself. It has everything to do with mitigating even a minute possibility of something going south unnecessarily.

Thanks for your help though.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5009 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Harassment allegations don’t have to be valid to ruin you now.

This is the truth. I worked at a place several years ago at which a guy got fired over allegations of sexual harassment. There were multiple witnesses around the building at any time and these two were never alone.

Long story short, some low IQ workers didn't like the operations manager because he actually held them accountable for their subpar work (and work ethic) and strong armed a woman to claim harassment. I even sat down with the President and VP and went on record. Didn't matter, he was fired.

A couple months later the woman admitted she made it up and confessed to the plot. No punishment, no write up, no notes in her employee file.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3121 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:51 am to
quote:

A couple months later the woman admitted she made it up and confessed to the plot. No punishment, no write up, no notes in her employee file.


Was the employee that was fired told about that?
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5009 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Was the employee that was fired told about that?

He knew but I'm not sure why he didn't decide to pursue it. She didn't officially go on record about it and then I left so I don't really know what happened after that point.
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