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re: Manhattan DA charges Trump's company, CFO with tax fraud
Posted on 7/4/21 at 1:20 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 7/4/21 at 1:20 pm to David_DJS
You're now arguing that the point you made here was about repeat offenders, guys involved in distribution, some with violent crimes in their history?
I'm doing no such thing. I'm saying my comment wasn't limited to just first time offender and those in federal prison which were qualifiers you added.
No. As I keep saying, there is very clearly two justice systems and it turns on the money you have.
Your very clearly care deeply. But fine.
I think laws should apply to rich people too, so if he takes a charge, so be it. That said, I think the fact that I know Hunter Biden's name or that there was ever an Federal investigation into him the first place cuts against your argument. You mean to tell me there just random organic interest in Joe Biden's son just as he was beginning to look like a threat to Trump? C'mon now. It was a very political investigation because Fox News for some reason told y'all that people would care that Hunter Biden was a frick up and hold that against Joe Biden for some reason. Trump's Justice dept would have hit him with charges had they had them, but they didn't, so they didn't.
To answer your question though, Trump Jr skated on stealing from his charity and he probably will end up getting caught up in the this under-reporting thing. But it won't matter because rich people have a different justice system.
Stepping back, if there was actually a justice system that went after Republicans it would be aimed at one the 50 R Senators, none of whom are under criminal investigation, or one of the swing state Republican congressmen, none of whom are under criminal investigation. Trumpworld keeps getting investigated and its members convicted because they are corrupt AF.
I'm doing no such thing. I'm saying my comment wasn't limited to just first time offender and those in federal prison which were qualifiers you added.
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You believe all violent protesters, everybody that ever lies while testifying before congress, everybody that fails to register as a foreign agent - they're all being treated the exact same way by our justice system?
No. As I keep saying, there is very clearly two justice systems and it turns on the money you have.
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And now you're being disingenuous. It wasn't more than a post or two ago that I clearly said that I could give a shite about this Wiesselberg character, and if he cheated on his taxes he deserves to get the fines/penalties he's going to get. That doesn't change the fact that Cyrus Vance Jr, a dyed in the wool Dem, didn't turn a simple tax matter into a ridiculous political dog & pony show. You even mentioned that loads of libs are excited by this "pelt" or however you termed it.
Your very clearly care deeply. But fine.
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Now tell me how disappointed you are with how Hunter Biden, a rich white dude, son of the president no less - has apparently skated on everything from kidding porn to gun violations to financial corruption. Do you honestly believe that if there was all the evidence of that shite on Donald Trump Jr's laptop that he'd be scot free, teaching at Tulane and selling art to rich liberals?
I think laws should apply to rich people too, so if he takes a charge, so be it. That said, I think the fact that I know Hunter Biden's name or that there was ever an Federal investigation into him the first place cuts against your argument. You mean to tell me there just random organic interest in Joe Biden's son just as he was beginning to look like a threat to Trump? C'mon now. It was a very political investigation because Fox News for some reason told y'all that people would care that Hunter Biden was a frick up and hold that against Joe Biden for some reason. Trump's Justice dept would have hit him with charges had they had them, but they didn't, so they didn't.
To answer your question though, Trump Jr skated on stealing from his charity and he probably will end up getting caught up in the this under-reporting thing. But it won't matter because rich people have a different justice system.
Stepping back, if there was actually a justice system that went after Republicans it would be aimed at one the 50 R Senators, none of whom are under criminal investigation, or one of the swing state Republican congressmen, none of whom are under criminal investigation. Trumpworld keeps getting investigated and its members convicted because they are corrupt AF.
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Posted on 7/4/21 at 4:09 pm to longwayfromLA
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I'm doing no such thing. I'm saying my comment wasn't limited to just first time offender and those in federal prison which were qualifiers you added.
You take issue with violent offenders receiving prison time as repeat offenders when they're brought up on possession charges? Is that really what you were arguing?
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No. As I keep saying, there is very clearly two justice systems and it turns on the money you have.
So Paul Manafort, General Flynn, and all the 1/6 rioters are poor people that get the shitty end of justice, as opposed to, for example, all the wealthy Antifa/BLM rioters using their vast financial resources to get better outcomes from the justice system?
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Your very clearly care deeply. But fine.
It's funny how you need to imagine knowing things you cannot possibly know in order to make a point. It's also exceedingly weak.
Reality is I don't care about this guy. And here's another reality - I'm not a big fan of Trump. I have a posting history in these threads going back over a year where I've made clear I think he's weirdly egotistical, not very smart, and I think he shite the bed on COVID. So for you to suggest that I'm all worked up about one of his underlings being caught as a tax cheat casts the opinions/suggestions you post in an interesting light.
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It was a very political investigation because Fox News for some reason told y'all that people would care that Hunter Biden was a frick up and hold that against Joe Biden for some reason.
Yeah, because rational adults need to be told by Fox News that kiddie porn is bad, or that the VP's son jetting around on AF2 to shakedown foreign governments/businesses isn't copacetic.
As for holding something against Joe - do you think Hunter had the keys to AF2? Are you going to tell us that you believe Joe when he says he didn't know anything about Hunter's dealings in spite of the evidence that suggests otherwise?
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Trump's Justice dept would have hit him with charges had they had them, but they didn't, so they didn't.
bullshite. Trump couldn't keep his own people from getting railroaded, what makes you think he could get the "wrong kind of guilty person" charged?
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Stepping back, if there was actually a justice system that went after Republicans it would be aimed at one the 50 R Senators, none of whom are under criminal investigation, or one of the swing state Republican congressmen, none of whom are under criminal investigation. Trumpworld keeps getting investigated and its members convicted because they are corrupt AF.
You seem to think unless all conservatives are indicted (for whatever) and no liberals are involved with the justice system, the justice system must be fair and square from a Right/Left balance perspective.
Your opinions are actually a little surprising to me. We've debated a number of things in these threads, but I never took you for a hopeless liberal hack. Maybe it was because most of our debates were about the virus, and while that was political AF, it was easier to focus on statistics, etc.
Tell me - do you think the IRS was turned against conservatives during Obama? I hope you're not so bent you can't be honest about that, so then my follow-up question is this: Obama's IRS was caught f'n with Obama's political opponents, and a Republican-led congress did not hold anyone to account. Why is it so hard for you to believe that other federal agencies, particularly now with Dem oversight, can't be just as bent?
Posted on 7/4/21 at 5:04 pm to longwayfromLA
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I'm saying my comment wasn't limited to just first time offender and those in federal prison which were qualifiers you added.
You’re stupid.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:18 pm to longwayfromLA
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C'mon now. It was a very political investigation because Fox News for some reason told y'all that people would care that Hunter Biden was a frick up and hold that against Joe Biden for some reason. Trump's Justice dept would have hit him with charges had they had them, but they didn't, so they didn't.
no, it was the illegal dealings from when Biden was vice president, before trump was even running. Thats when the investigations should have happened and found nefarious dealings with the bidens while holding office. His son just happened to go off the rails while Trump was president.
Trump being president should not have anything to do with investigating the Bidens, they should have been regardless.
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