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re: Zack Snyder’s 'Army of the Dead' Tomatometer & Spoiler Thread
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:36 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:36 am to wildtigercat93
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But they don’t really don’t have to
Well obviously they don’t have to, but starting with a bunch of random people saying ok let’s go get that money isn’t exactly the best way to tell a story either
They basically spent 2-3 minutes on each of the group members, that’s over 20 minutes right there, and it was obviously several more minutes for Bautista and the daughter (not to mention the random mom she was searching for). After the intro snd credits plus the brief meet with Tanaka and the bit about the incoming nuke that puts it right about 45 minutes or so when they actually go into the city.
I didn’t think it felt dragged out, and all those little intros had a point so to me I didn’t mind it. I know some people just want to get to the gore and that’s fine, I just don’t mind getting acclimated to each of the characters for a quick scene. Especially because the intro scene and the credits should have provided enough gore for a bit of exposition.
I mean heaven forbid we have a bit of a story with our bloody popcorn
Like I said do think the whole daughter character and story should have been cut. It really added nothing and was just contrived bullshite with the random missing mom.
Bautista struggling with what happened with his wife and moving on with Maria was enough to attempt to put some emotion in the story.
Cut out that character and her arc and that’s probably close to 20 minutes and makes it a much tighter story with pretty much no effect on the main conflict imo.
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Especially since (vague spoilers here), it all meant nothing really given the way it ended
Fair enough
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ETA actually calling it a zombie heist movie seems a bit unfair. It’s a zombie movie with a bank vault involved in the plot.
Yeah agreed, I mentioned it’s more of a rescue story than a heist. Deiter needed his moment though :lol:
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 11:52 am
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:03 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Well obviously they don’t have to, but starting with a bunch of random people saying ok let’s go get that money isn’t exactly the best way to tell a story either
For this specific type of movie? It would’ve been a remarkable improvement to the quality of the film.
We have no preconceived notions of these characters, and clearly the characters are disposable so why waste all the time trying to explain their life story? Zombies are as obvious of a foe as you can create in a story, you don’t really need any more motivation than survival (or this case money) to make an excuse for why it’s happening. The audience bought into the set up the second they turned the movie on.
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They basically spent 2-3 minutes on each of the group members, that’s over 20 minutes right there, and it was obviously several more minutes for Bautista and the daughter (not to mention the random mom she was searching for). After the intro snd credits plus the brief meet with Tanaka and the bit about the incoming nuke that puts it right about 45 minutes or so when they actually go into the city.
I think you could’ve gotten away with 20 minutes of montages to build your story, or 20 minutes of exposition scenes to build your story. They wanted both and it just felt so unnecessary and boring
That long credits scene told me everything and more I needed to know about the characters in a zombie movie. Cut the rest.
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I mean heaven forbid we have a bit of a story with our bloody popcorn
Feel free to interject plot lines into a popcorn movie, but whenever all the added plot lines do is inflate the run time and lull the viewer to sleep until the next action scene, it’s not a useful addition to the movie. It’s just wasted motion and time.
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Bautista struggling with what happened with his wife and moving on with Maria was enough to attempt to put some emotion in the story.
And they could’ve conveyed that in atleast half the amount of screen time it did.
ETA I’m glad you enjoyed the movie, not trying to shite on that. I enjoyed it in parts as well. I just think if it had a better idea of what it was or what it wanted to be, the movie would be infinitely better. And that’s a problem a lot of action movies have these days
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/22/21 at 12:47 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Well obviously they don’t have to, but starting with a bunch of random people saying ok let’s go get that money isn’t exactly the best way to tell a story either
Had Snyder done that, this board would be complaining "we don't know anything about these characters!!"
Posted on 5/25/21 at 1:47 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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They basically spent 2-3 minutes on each of the group members, that’s over 20 minutes right there, and it was obviously several more minutes for Bautista and the daughter (not to mention the random mom she was searching for). After the intro snd credits plus the brief meet with Tanaka and the bit about the incoming nuke that puts it right about 45 minutes or so when they actually go into the city.
Macgruber has ruined these team recruiting montages for me forever. Lol
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