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re: Massive pile-up on I-35W in Ft. Worth; 130+ vehicles involved; Multiple Fatalities

Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:06 pm to
I've lived in Iowa for many years and I have seen pile up videos before, 1 just last week with our blizzard. I have never seen semi trucks coming in hot the way they were with this crash. The ice down in south Oklahoma and north Texas is a different animal.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:07 pm to
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driving busy interstates overnight or in bad weather (especially in the South) should be avoided at all costs.


There's so many idiots in that video, especially those later 18-wheelers driving in as fast and reckless as they are knowing damn well of the icy conditions. If I was a family involved in that, I'd be in touch with my lawyer

Any time we get ice or bad weather down here (which is few and far between), I always call in. I know I'm fine driving on it, but it's people like some in those videos that make me double take on risking it
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:08 pm to
Reason #5372 to not live in the suburbs/ have long a long commute
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:09 pm to
don't these truckers have radios? Seems like it would have been broadcasted all over their airwaves about the ice and this huge pile-up blocking the highway. That truck hit them at full speed.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:10 pm to
Like 777 said, we drive so fast here just to keep up I think. There was no chance on a perfect blind rise like that in those conditions. Freaking awful
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:10 pm to
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it always seems to me that they sort of up that part of their game in bad weather driving conditions


They think the weather will do nothing to them. I'll admit that I'm an aggressive driver (I found out from one of my roommate's girlfriends), but there's a thing called common sense
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:12 pm to
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don't these truckers have radios? Seems like it would have been broadcasted all over their airwaves about the ice and this huge pile-up blocking the highway.


you'd think, that little corridor is like a raceway(and ironically is right by TMS,) those big bitches are hauling arse two abreast for miles, and they can't exactly stop on a dime
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Reason #5372 to not live in the suburbs/ have long a long commute


Come on. 35 is a major corridor straight south as much as a commute. Unavoidable.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1533 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:16 pm to
My friend lived in DFW metro for a couple and I visited him a few times driving south I35 the whole way. I was surprised at the bridge ice warnings the first time I saw them. I see now why they are in place. Up here we are kind of seasoned with winter driving knowing it's going to suck for at least 3-4 months. Down there the conditions can change awfully fast.

I now see the 18 wheeler has the Humvees as cargo. The camera angle I had I thought they were on the ground. Which considering the magnitude of a crash wouldn't surprise me for recovery efforts. Just a terrible situation smh.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:17 pm to
If you're the first group of firefighters to pull up on the scene of something like this, where do you start?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:19 pm to
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Any time we get ice or bad weather down here (which is few and far between), I always call in. I know I'm fine driving on it, but it's people like some in those videos that make me double take on risking it



Statistically the changes you can make in your practices to avoid a situation like this might be futile. But the big multi-fatality incidents here usually seem to happen on interstates and either in bad weather or overnight. Which are easy enough things to avoid for a lot of us.

When the big ice/snow event happened in Atlanta, I took surface streets home which ended up taking me about 6 hours to go 10ish miles. I came close (inches) to getting in a wreck about 5-6 times, but it would have just been an inconvenience most likely, not extreme danger. I think interstates were largely fine in that instance as well because most people were just completely stuck and nobody was moving, but avoiding the TTs is always worthwhile if it's dicey IMO.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Here's another facebook link to two more videos. This is hard to watch.

Facebook link


WOW. Cars literally flying through the air
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:20 pm to
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where do you start?



no kidding, huh? different than something like a plane crash where you kind sort of tell there's not going t be any/many survivors, in this case it's vehicle to vehicle to triage I guess?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29283 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:26 pm to
Would have to. Be. I guess start at the back/front and just work your way down. I can’t imagine the stuff you’d see
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:28 pm to
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I can’t imagine the stuff you’d see




one of the rare instances where people with cell phones is a bonus, I guess they can help steer them to critical cases?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:33 pm to
The roads were 100% ice-covered. While difficult it is not impossible to drive on ice.

The key to doing so is trying to never break traction - any spinning of tires, no lateral forces exceeding the grip of the tires.

I had to stop multiple times to allow the windshield to clear itself of ice each time I walked onto the travel lanes to check the status. It was all ice.

I have lived and driven in cold climates most of my life, driving on icy covered roads is part of life.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55947 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:35 pm to
That doesn’t have anything to do with what I said

I’ll never live where I would have to take a busy interstate to get to work
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas, Tx
Member since Nov 2018
11156 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:37 pm to
dfw people already can’t drive but you throw some ice in the mix and you’re just rolling the dice at that point
Posted by Catahoula20LSU
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
2136 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:46 pm to
5 fatalities confirmed so far
Posted by lazy
Member since Jun 2020
1594 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:05 pm to
Here is the thing about today in DFW, there was freezing rain but everything was melting on contact so you cautiously go over a few elevated sections and no ice so you stop being cautious and then boom, one section has ice and you're screwed. It wasn't like there was ice everywhere and you just kept going fast.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 1:27 pm
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