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re: Dylan Crews will hit nukes this year

Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:38 am to
Posted by texastigger
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 6:38 am to
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I'm sure you already know this, as well, but you don't have to swing real hard, if the pitcher throws hard, to have a pretty high exit velocity. It's the least important metric, in my humble opinion.


Not here to argue the relevance of EV, but this simply isn't true. Per Dr. Alan Nathan, 1 mph pitch = 0.2 mph exit= 1 ft distance. 1 mph bat = 1.2 mph exit= 6 ft distance.

~85% of EV is attributable to bat speed. To put it into perspective, in 2012, Giancarlo Stanton hit a bomb off of Jamie Moyer. The ball measured at 438ft (only bc it was stopped by the scoreboard), and had an EV of 122.4. The pitch was thrown at a whopping 66.4 mph.

We are getting off track, but to me EV is an easily measurable metric for bat speed and barrel contact, and thus the swing and mechanics in general.
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:07 am to
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Posted by Metaloctopus
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:41 am to
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Not here to argue the relevance of EV, but this simply isn't true. Per Dr. Alan Nathan, 1 mph pitch = 0.2 mph exit= 1 ft distance. 1 mph bat = 1.2 mph exit= 6 ft distance.

~85% of EV is attributable to bat speed. To put it into perspective, in 2012, Giancarlo Stanton hit a bomb off of Jamie Moyer. The ball measured at 438ft (only bc it was stopped by the scoreboard), and had an EV of 122.4. The pitch was thrown at a whopping 66.4 mph.

We are getting off track, but to me EV is an easily measurable metric for bat speed and barrel contact, and thus the swing and mechanics in general.


You say you aren't here to argue, and yet you not only argued, you missed the entire point of what I said.

I said you don't have to swing real hard if the pitcher throws hard. You then decided it was relevant to give an example of a 1mph pitch. Afterwards, you told me that Giancarlo Stanton hit a ball realy hard off of Jamie Moyer to somehow prove a point. Giancarlo Stanton, who is perhaps the strongest man in baseball, with one of the most violent swings, is your example... I want you to stop for a minute and think about that one...

I said "you don't have to swing real hard if the pitcher throws hard", and I also made a point it's all about timing. Perfect contact (barreling it up) does not equal swinging hard. You COULD do both, but it isn't always necessary. You, on the other hand, use the softest tossing pitcher you can think of to offset my argument, but proceed to use Stanton, who swings as hard as anyone, in the same example.

Rafael Palmeiro, just to name someone off the top of my head, used to have the easiest, non aggressive swing in the world. He hit over 500 homers. He had the timing and the swing path, and it resulted in lots of home runs.

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We are getting off track, but to me EV is an easily measurable metric for bat speed and barrel contact, and thus the swing and mechanics in general.




It's a metric that only tells you how hard a ball is hit WHEN the hitter makes solid contact. It does not assure that he will square it up on any consistent basis. That's number 1: But, also, I didn't say that high exit velocity wasn't an indication of solid contact. That is what puzzles me the most about your last paragraph. I merely pointed out that you don't have to try to swing out of your shoes, if you allow the pitcher to provide the velocity and simply time your swings well, which, ultimately, is what it all comes down to. If the exit velocity is consistently high, THEN that tells you something about the quality of the hitter. But you don't need a radar gun to recognize quality contact. That's why the metric is useless, to me. Hayden Travinski hits the ball really hard in practice. I can't remember if he even had a hit in a game. Exit velo is just something for people to fawn over like pitchers who throw 100 MPH, but couldn't hit the ocean standing on a surf board.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 7:45 am
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