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re: One of the original “Chinese Bandits” has left us
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:09 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:09 pm to LSUtoOmaha
The Bandits were defensive specialists and usually did not play both ways.
Jim Lavin was a great person. However, the Chinese Bandits were born in 1958 as part of Dietzel's three-team system --the White team which played both ways, the Go team which specialized on offense and the Chinese Bandits, which specialized on defense. In Lavin's years 1956 and 1957 he did play both ways. In 1956 he was the only LSU player big enough to go against the great Earl Leggett, the Tigers' star tackle who had an outstanding professional career after his final campaign under Dietzel in 1956.
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Jim Lavin was a great person. However, the Chinese Bandits were born in 1958 as part of Dietzel's three-team system --the White team which played both ways, the Go team which specialized on offense and the Chinese Bandits, which specialized on defense. In Lavin's years 1956 and 1957 he did play both ways. In 1956 he was the only LSU player big enough to go against the great Earl Leggett, the Tigers' star tackle who had an outstanding professional career after his final campaign under Dietzel in 1956.
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:59 pm to LayupKing
I go to church with a Chinese bandit.
Tommy Lott.
Tommy Lott.
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:30 am to LayupKing
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The Bandits were defensive specialists and usually did not play both ways.
The former is true, but the latter suggests a misunderstanding of what was going on.
The substitution rules forced a change in philosophy in order to keep star players rested. The result of Dietzl's experimentation was the White, Go(ld) and Chinese Bandit squads - when a player was pulled during that time, he could not re-enter the game until the next quarter. Dietzl and staff would then try to predict what the final possession would be and sub the backups (Go or CB) in for that, with the goal of inserting the White team at the beginning of the next quarter.
Although Dietzl and Mac dearly loved the Bandits, they wanted the White team on the field with the game on the line.
Bottom line - all the players of that era played both ways out of necessity - typically, Dietzl wanted the White team on the field at key points, whether on defense or offense. The backups were tailored to their specialty, but a turnover or other unforeseen turn of the game would cause them to play the other way.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:30 am
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:06 pm to LayupKing
That was true for the most part, except that Dietzel originally designated the Chinese Bandits as playing both ways. My dad - Jim Lavin and Ray Spence were the original 2 Chinese Bandits that he put on the chalk board after practice one day.
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